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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

America is a white-supremacist country.

I know that sounds controversial, but that's the ideals of the president elect of the country, who won the popularity vote.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

America, the state, is white-supremacist and has been since birth. Absolutely. Although that's not good logic for explaining how. I doubt most voters for Trump did so because of his or their racist views, there were plenty of other policies (sorry, ideas and themes) Trump platformed on that appealed to them.

The amount of Democrat supporters again surprised at how non-whites can possibly vote for Trump on a non-trivial scale is a testament to why it's important to understand voting patterns beyond race ideology, beyond "Trump is a disgusting racist, only a white supremacist would vote for them.", especially if you're on the ground trying to organize your community to create the positive changes neither candidate can offer.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was still a white supremacist country under Biden and all previous Presidents and it would have been so under Kamala. This isn't something that gets changed by elections.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's true, but that wasn't my point. My point was that the majority of the population voted for someone who does have white-supremacist ideals - whereas Biden and Kamala do not.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

That's a silly argument. Biden (aside from being an unrepentant segregationist!) acted as an active agent of white supremacy, and Kamala would have too, just like every President has.

As an aside, it wasn't the majority of the population. It wasn't even the majority of the voting-eligible population. It was like a little over a quarter, I think.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 days ago

the USA (and canada, and australia, and new zealand, and many more) are settler colonial states that were born out of mass genocide dictated by white supremacist rhetoric.

these states are white supremacist to their core

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 5 points 2 days ago

Most 'western' countries are.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago

Well yeah duh, it's owned by an overt white supremacist.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes. And no one's going to do anything about it.

Most people are too lazy and thoughtless to stop using it .

The engineers that work there certainly aren't going to stage a coup.

And no one's going to just do violence to Musk.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The engineers that work there certainly aren’t going to stage a coup.

What engineers? Musk fired all of them when he first started.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Surely there's a couple people still working there.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana 1 points 2 days ago
[–] P4ulin_Kbana 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] mihor@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I believe it's red these days. 🥴

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, we dont need another instance of the same story of corporate greed enshittifying a platform like its ging to happen with bluesky.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was actually referring about how obvious the title of the articles is

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Oh, sorry then. It just seemed like a really good wordplay for bluesky

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago

Another author who doesn't make the important distinction between moderation and censorship.

[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think it's shit that some leftists continue to use Xitter. If all social media is a simulacrum of public space, Xitter is the one where this is clearer. It is not a dispute space, is literal owned by a nazi.