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    And yes I looked it up and it was the game's fault, elite dangerous odyssey can be fickle even when I had Windows πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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    [–] li10@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I’m gonna get shit for it, but gaming on Linux really isn’t great imo.

    My experience is that it’s a pain in the arse to get anything running, performance is worse, vsync is fucked, no HDR, doesn’t work with Hue Sync, and then a hundred other miscellaneous problems.

    Proton is an incredible achievement from a technical standpoint, and if people are happy to put up with issues to protect their privacy then good on them, but I think people oversell how good the actual Linux gaming experience is.

    P.S. I don’t need suggestions on how to fix the issues I listed. I’m more than able to resolve them if I had the time, I just don’t want to have those problems to start with.

    [–] dickbutler@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

    Linux games work just fine on my SteamDeck.

    Not sure how to add pictures here yet so you have to imagine Leo laughing with drink here.

    [–] jkmooney@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

    I guess I'm a "casual gamer" and I tend to avoid games using anti-cheat (not clear on how much access to my computer I'm giving that software). So far, for me, the games have "just worked". I'm even alpha testing a new game (Palia) in Lutris and it seems to be working just fine.

    [–] mrquantumoff@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I honestly agree, the only exception is the steam deck. I don't know how, but that thing runs games really smooth. I really want CoD, BF2042 and R6S to support Linux, these games are stopping me from daily driving linux.

    [–] li10@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Yeah, I imagine that’s helped by Valve working hard to get games running on a device they have a lot of control over, making it easier to fix/optimise games.

    Gaming on Linux will obviously continue to improve, but I think it will always be playing catch up and I don’t see most game devs bothering to support it, unfortunately.

    [–] zbecker@mastodon.zbecker.cc 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    @li10

    I think devs have an incentive to support it as it gains marketshare.

    Easy anticheat for example didn't support #wine until after the steam deck came out

    [–] li10@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago

    I don’t think it’s going to gain any significant market share though, or at least not until games start supporting it.

    Bit of a chicken and egg situation.

    [–] WildlyCanadian@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

    Most things are easy to get running in my experience, and I've never noticed performance loss. My only gripe is lack of RTX support, but I plan on switching to AMD anyway so I'm not too fussed.

    Not sure what you mean by vsync being fucked?

    I do keep windows installed tho, because modding Bethesda games specifically has been a major pain in the ass for me on Linux. Outside of that and a couple other minor things I play everything in Linux with little effort. Still wouldn't recommend it to the average Joe though, but I love to tinker.

    [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

    Yeah I tried it as well and it worked, but it was annoying. I used Ubuntu and every now and then some of my games would break after package/OS updates, which sucked because the games usually took effort to work well. I already spend my day solving tech problems and really don't feel like dealing with it after work, so I settled for Windows as my desktop.

    Still, it's way better than it was 10 years ago and it keeps improving. With Windows continuing and worsening its anti-consumer practices I could see myself on Linux for desktop usage in the future at some point.

    [–] Big_Haddy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It's absolutely far from perfect, but I'm happy because of how much better it's gotten compared to how it used to be. Like, similar to like how everytime I find myself complaining about emptying my shitty dishwasher I remind myself that not long ago I had to do them by hand.

    [–] MrFoenBox@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

    Actually, I have had minimal problems overall. The only games I have been unable to play are those with 'Easy Anti Cheat'. But more often than not I can click install on Steam and start playing games first try just like on Windows. I do still check tho on protondb if anyone else has had issues getting the game to work just out of habit.

    [–] PitzNR@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

    I run both windows 10 and linux on different machines, I legit had a nightmare last night that my windows machine updated itself to windows 11.

    [–] jkmooney@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Mint is an excellent "daily driver" option. I used it for years. Running EndeavourOS these days but nothing bad to say about Mint. If I'd have stayed with it, I'd have likely moved to LMDE by now though. Although, that's more about my concerns with the direction Canonical is heading than Mint itself.

    [–] MrFoenBox@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

    I was actually thinking about that, I might do the same if Ubuntu decides to move away from support deb packages like they said they would.

    [–] rovingnothing29@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    https://liquorix.net/

    The liquorix kernel has done wonders for me on that front. Your experience will vary though.

    [–] mvee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

    The most dangerous curl sudo bash on the internet :P meh it's probably fine...

    [–] Xeelee@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    People always paint Mint as a "beginner distro". That's just so dumb. Mint is perfectly fine for anybody who just wants stuff to run in their computer with minimum hassle. If you like tinkering, by all means install Arch. But if you just want something that works, use Mint.

    [–] eu@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Isn't that what they mean by "beginner distro"? Something that just works?

    [–] Xeelee@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    But it implies that if you use it, it means you're not that knowledgeable. As if knowledgeable people need to recompile their kernel every day just because they can.

    [–] eu@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Eh, I think knowledgeable people know better than to trust such implications. If you're savvy enough you can do everything you want on any distro, but if you're just getting into Linux there are some better, less challenging entry points and Mint is one of them.

    [–] MrFoenBox@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

    I can see that perspective, but I think the word 'beginner' still makes it sound like people want to paint Mint in a poor light. It sounds elitist ya know? Perhaps a better word for it is reliable.

    [–] jkmooney@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

    I've explained it this way; If Windows is an "Automatic" and, say, Arch is a "Stick Shift", then MInt is a "Paddle Shift". You can drive it around like an automatic all day but, if you want direct access to the gear box, it's right under your fingertips.

    [–] mack123@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Just got Elite Dangerous running today on my fresh Ubuntu. Loaded the modules for the z52 hotas, copied my bindings from my windows instance and there she flies. That makes 3 out o3 for my most played games in Ubuntu.

    So far ED is running flawlessly. I need an equivalent for ED market connector though. But that can be manual gor the moment.

    [–] MrFoenBox@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

    There was a flatpack release for the ED market connector awhile ago, I have no idea if it's still functioning (i have gotten in the habit of doing it manually too) but you might want to check it out. https://flathub.org/apps/io.edcd.EDMarketConnector

    [–] fraydabson@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

    I used Linux mint back in the Mint 17.0 days and loved it. I have since gone back to windows and use Ubuntu for my headless server but haven’t tried mint in a while maybe I should go back especially with how much gaming on Linux has evolved. I really hate windows and only use it for games so it’s an exciting time to move back to Linux.

    I haven't played ED in a long time. I'll probably load it up sometime now. I've been using arch for almost a year now, I was going back and forth between that and debian for a while. But I prefer arch for it having an easier package manager, in my opinion.

    Linux Mint is fantastic; it beat out Tumbleweed as my daily driver, and that's saying something.

    [–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    How’s your experience running Ody on Linux?

    [–] NOPper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Runs fine for me on Manjaro. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

    [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Having this issue with Dyson sphere program, strangely enough, changing graphics settings does nothing, changing the fps-ups slider only changes ups, and the only way I can raise fps is to use a mod to disable rendering of almost everything, making the game unplayable

    [–] Subverb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    That's a fun game. Glad to run into someone else that has played it.

    [–] pancakesyrupyum@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I always liked Mint when I daily drove it years ago. Nowadays since Steam appears to be more user-friendly I’m wondering if I should try something like Pop so I don’t have to do any troubleshooting / run a dual-boot just to run games.

    [–] MrFoenBox@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

    When I was distro hopping to discover what would be my daily driver I found POP annoying to handle some of the more day-to-day tasks A lot of unnecessary fluff and handlebars around the place. I feel like Mint doesn't give you training wheels. Rather it just teaches you why things are the way they are. For example on the first-time boot PopOS. when prompting me to update some programs, it failed and crashed the package manager leaving me clueless and forcing me to open it again and sort out that I needed to update the package manager. Meanwhile, over on Mint's first-time boot, the update manager refused to let me continue with updates until I updated the package manager FIRST, then explained to me what each symbol meant and how to update things. I may have already known what everything did, but it was still far more helpful in the short term and a cleaner experience.

    [–] Saturdaycat@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The only thing keeping me from switching to Linux full time is clip studio

    [–] ihavenopeopleskills@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Have you tried Wine or a VM?

    [–] Saturdaycat@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I've heard it works with wine, just not well. I haven't seen it suggested to use a windows VM for it tho... Curious to know if that may work

    [–] Falmarri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    There's really no reason it shouldn't work

    [–] Saturdaycat@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

    I've heard a lot about how it really doesn't work well with Linux, even in wine, but I haven't really explored it first hand

    [–] MrFoenBox@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

    Have you tried the Lutris wine preset for it? https://lutris.net/games/clip-studio-paint/

    [–] Norgur@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

    The only reason I'm still with Windows is that I do Renders in DAZ 3D with a large Asset library and Italy as render engine. That doesn't work on Linux sadly.

    [–] Magister@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    To each is own distro, I used Ubuntu for years, Mint/Cinnamon after that for ~3 years and now MX Linux/xfce AHS on my new PC, they all work, no problem πŸ˜‰

    [–] Marduk73@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Ps4 straight up got abandoned when it comes to space legs. Sitting here with only elite dangerous.

    [–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    laughs in linux

    Still has performance issues

    [–] MrFoenBox@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    See post text, turns out it wqs elite dangerous' fault.

    [–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

    Oh i did i just found it funny enough to comment either way

    Linux mint is an amazing distro and it was the one that really got me into Linux 10 years ago. It just works!

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