Nobody is saying that fish are moral agents that can empathise with other beings. That doesn't man that they're not moral subjects; the ability to understand that one is causing harm is not a prerequisite for the ability to suffer oneself. I think everyone knows this intuitively, but it does feel good to have our less moral habits be justified by memes that we would otherwise find to be illogical.

[–] sorata@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You are right, but I believe putting a cease to life is not inherently bad. If we could kill animals without letting them feel anything, that wouldn't really be bad.

[–] whenigrowup356@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Ethical consideration has to extend to more than just painless death to be worth a damn. I can't walk into an infant ward and painlessly murder infants in their sleep for a reason.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (15 children)

This is why we should be killing pigs with nitrogen, rather than CO2. CO2 is how a mammal determines it is suffocating, meanwhile the air is mostly made up of nitrogen so we ignore it. However, it's precisely this which makes it dangerous to humans working nearby (also the fact that CO2 is heavier than air so you can have open pits), and it's ruled too expensive to do it humanely.

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[–] corvus@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

By eating vegetables you are doing harm anyway, they are living organisms after all.

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