The US is a fucking joke. Biden should be ashamed of himself
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Are you suggesting that if the dems won, they would have stopped the unlimited support for Israel's genocide?
Unless there's a coup in the DNC, we're going to see a repeat of this week in 2026 and 2028.
If the democrats had learned anything at all, they would stop all arms shipments and sanction Israel right now so they can credibly say to voters they want the same things.
I think they're suggesting that, if you think what you're seeing now is "unlimited support," you'll have a pretty shocking 2025. There can't be a repeat in '26 and '28 if there are no Palestinians left.
We had a shitty choice to make, and we chose to accelerate this genocide so we can get on to all the others, but hey...if it teaches a liberal a lesson that's a chance we're willing to take. At least it'll be over for them faster this way.
I think they’re suggesting that, if you think what you’re seeing now is “unlimited support,” you’ll have a pretty shocking 2025.
Every weapon congress allowed, the US sent to Israel, and the US used its standing military to prevent anyone else from stopping Israel. The Biden admin has done literally nothing to limit Israel's genocide and has used the military and diplomatic power to ensure that it continues.
We had a shitty choice to make
We didn't choose shit, the democrats made choices at every opportunity that lowered turnout. Genocide lowers turnout. Saying you're going to appoint republicans to your cabinet lowers turnout. Pledging to shut down the border and build the wall lowers turnout. Means testing all of your campaign promises lowers turnout. Like anyone who's been paying attention, I spent the last 4 years telling anyone who'd listen that if the democrats do this shit, Trump will win in 2024, and now somehow it's everyone's fault except the democrats.
Policy is not to arm countries blocking humanitarian aid - this is just sparkling aiding genocide.
To all of the Harris supporters out there, this is one of the things that people didn't like about her. She's part of this problem, even now, after she lost.
Remember when Biden's admin said they'd cut off aid if Israel didn't let aid into gaza and stop killing humanitarian workers, but set the deadline for just after the election?
This proves it was a cynical ploy and they never intended to limit their support of Israel's genocide.
Just shows that the democrats would rather lose to trump than to stop pouring billions into the military industrial complex.
There was/is no downside for the democrats to have ended the genicide in Palestine. Zionest and evangelical Christians were never going to vote blue anyways. So why give them what they want when they knew they would losemillions of Arab, Muslim, and left members of their base?
Literally many Arab, Muslim, and left organizations in swing states told DNC that they would not vote for them if they didn't end the genicide. And the DNC and Neo-Liberals of the party laughed in their faces. Whelp. Here we are.
Is asking for no genicide by anyone really too much to ask for? Even more so when we literally have the power to stop it?
The logical answer is that Chuck Schumer, Bill Clinton, John Fetterman, Joe Biden and many, many, many other Democratic Party top brass and elected representatives, agree with this genocide and wish for nothing more than for the earth to swallow up the million children in Gaza (well, it used to be a million) so that the Jewish state can be more secure.
The logical answer is that Christian dispensationalism, Jewish supremacism (promulgated openly in the past by liberal heroes like Churchill) and deep disdain for Muslims and Arabs are baked into this old guard.
The logical answer is that the US political system is a plaything of special interests and that Christian fundamentalists, Israeli lobbyists and Jewish nationalists have successfully thwarted attempts by America's moral majority to hold Israel accountable.
The only logical explanation is that they want the genocide. Nothing else makes sense at this point.
This is what I've been trying to get across to the people screeching about anyone who didn't vote versus voting for Harris (I voted for Harris, just fyi, begrudgingly).
Voters were vocally and publically opposed to the genocide in Palestine being aided by the Biden admin, but the DNC would not back down, making these half-ass "Well, if Israel crossed the fifth line we drew, ooh, they're really in for it this time! That next phone call, I'm gonna use the F word!"
Voters were making their concerns and their internal conflict known online, and they were either outright attacked for being a Trump supporter (y'know, instead of a human being trying to weigh which lives matter more in their voting decision). Or, you were told that we just had to bite the bullet "one more time," and then this time we'll be able to get the party to listen to us, and start to move in progressive directions.
But when you pointed out that there was no way to know the DNC would actually listen based on 2016 and 2020, and the fact the longer the campaign went on the further right Harris and her policies shifted... You were dismissed and screamed at for being a Trump supporter.
And this just proves to me that the DNC was never, has never, and will never compromise with their voting base on anything. Period. Even now, what are DNC pundits going on the news and saying? "The voters failed us, the DNC went too far left this election, the voters are tired of "wOkE" policies, I've even heard two Democratic politicians throw trans people under the bus.
The party of supposed LGBTQ+ lost an election and immediately turned on one of the most marginalized groups of their voting base.
But no, no, they'll totally listen to us after we get them elected and give them over a billion dollars in campaign money. 🙄
4 million from AIPAC to Biden, he is not serving the united states interests, he is serving the AIPAC lobby interests.
Just imagine of any other lobby group pay him 4 millions in donation and the media out cry.
The hostage that need to be free is the US government!
Israel, and AIPAC is just an extension of the US government. The US supports Israel because it allows them to threaten the rest of the middle east and keep cheap resources and labor flowing out.
This is bad for the people who live in America (and the middle east), but it is good for the capitalist class the US represents.
Remember when Joe Biden had them make an "aid pier" that was only really used to launch a massacre from before it collapsed?
Americans, the bombs getting used to vaporize the children of Gaza are paid for with your taxes.
Did you know an American soldier died last week from an injury accident during the aid pier?
Oof. Imagine dying for a vanity project to white wash genocide.
Unfortunately, we have our own shit to worry about, like work camps and the upcoming trump dictatorship. You’ll need to get the EU to help Gaza now.
The point is that the US was never really helping the people of gaza, just enabling the people murdering them.
I think that point was made years ago.
Agreed, though that's also why I don't think anyone is expecting the EU to be particularly helpful either
These comments are hysterical. Do some of you actually think Gaza affected the elections in any way? The average American was focused on shit here in the US.
Outside of self important echo chambers like here, most Americans while sympathetic to Gaza, were 99% focused on the economy, supporting/stopping Trump, or their personal issues.
And now? Every American with common sense is just focused on surviving and hoping they'll actually BE elections in 4 years...
If Trump even does a third of the shit he wants to. The US will collapse into a third world country or become the next Reich.
Yes. The genocide killed any progressive momentum for the Democrats. Harris popularity went through the roof in polling when she was appointed. People thought she might be willing to stop the genocide back then. And stand for something.
Blaming it all on the economy is such cope.