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Summary

With Donald Trump’s 2024 election win, young Gen Z voters like Kate, Holly, and Rachel are grappling with deepening divides with their Trump-supporting parents.

For many, these conflicts go beyond policy disagreements, touching on core values and morality. Parents once focused on fiscal conservatism have, in some cases, embraced conspiracy theories, creating painful rifts.

Studies suggest political divisions are increasingly seen as moral judgments, fostering a “mega-identity” where political views signify personal decency.

For these young adults, maintaining family connections amidst such ideological fractures has become challenging.

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Aren't tons of young adults also MAGA now

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Boomers were drawn in to MAGA to protect their wealth. Gen Z kids were attracted by the promise of lifting them out of poverty and change of the status quo on this. Fascists are really good at convincing people on all parts of the economic spectrum.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

If they were actually serious about having a fair shot at having some money, they'd be progressives. Don't change the subject. It's not that they're poor, it's that they're hateful.

Yeah, the generational divisions aren't clean any longer. Young men voted for Trump, thanks to social media "alpha" male influencers and recommendation algorithms.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Now? I didn't see a single person over 40 carrying one of those fucking tiki torches in 2016

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes. I wonder if they might turn out worse than boomers, Gen X and Gen Y.

I doubt critical thinking and media literacy education has gotten any better and certainly not enough to match the vast increase of propaganda combined with algorithms...

People - typically the usual cloistered beltway media and those that parrot them - tell me that, somehow, Gen Z and Gen alpha are somehow so much smarter, possibly even in some way magical, compared to prior generations.

Not buying it.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago

Yeah I'm not so sure anymore either. I used to buy into this thinking from personal experience, like nobody amongst any generations could have the nuanced detailed discussions about progressive subjects like race and gender and it's depiction in media as your typical Gen-Z or millennial on Tumblr or Reddit and all those massively popular decent video essayists and science communicators on YouTube, heck even the right wingers used to make fun of millennials for "heckin' science" and whatnot.

But now it's like there's been a change, now everything is so massively anti-intellectual, people unironically say that a paragraph is too long to read in comments they choose to browse, simplicity is glorified versus complexity/reality/nuance.

Perhaps Gen-Z is just far more polarized and radicalised in both directions. If I have to think of the most "lame" thing someone could say in my generation and the most easily attacked position it's to be an establishment or status quo simp like a milquetoast republican or democrat.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I know every generation says it, but I really think there was a "peak" generation that grew up on the old web, and learned critical thinking the hard way. The Internet is a lie.

Those that never leave apps and their feeds? Not learning that lesson.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm gonna claim that is millennials really hit the sweet spot of technology advancement that, like you said, forced us to learn things and think critically. Working in IT, I now have to continue to help the older generation understand computers but also teach the younger generation how to use computers. It's been tablets and mobile interfaces for a decade now, and nobody has learned how things work.

I do think the generation that's about to reach adult hood seems to be more well adjusted emotionally that any other I've experienced. A lot of schools do include basic programming courses and all do common core math, so hopefully that will be the difference maker for critical thinking. I think the 20-30 year olds right now could be the most problematic politically going forward.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Schools being effective might become far more difficult in the next few years, especially if Betsy DeVos gets her claws into it again.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

And isn't that the real point, after all? Effective schools (especially if they don't just treat it as a school-to-work program, but instead, teach actual critical thinking and give people the skills - and the will - to be autodidactics with an actual liberal education background) would probably mean less Republicans.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What about parents dealing with their maga kids?

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That's an uncomfortable yet valid question. A significant portion of Gen Z kids were exposed to the MAGA shit through Rogan or Tate. I'm not a parent, but I'd put some serious thought into limiting their inheritance on the down low.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

I'm a parent. To me it's the same either way. Open dialogue and understanding. You can't shake hands with a closed fist.

Luckily my parents and kids are not insane so haven't had to deal much with this but as an example when Andrew Tate came up in discussion with my kids I explained how he's a disgusting human being and how to judge people through a multitude of criteria such as who is promoting them, what are their interests, who are associated with them, what do they represent, etc.

As a general rule assholes tend to support asshole ideas and surround themselves with other assholes.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Limit it? they want to try lifting themselves by their own bootstraps they can. Give it to a decent charity or someone more worthy.

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