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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 hours ago

I'm just waiting for Bluesky to introduce ads.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 36 points 14 hours ago

I’m more surprised to discover now that it launched without ads

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

More short sighted corporate greed. It's a great period to try and pull in Twitter users but instead let's add ads for a short term bump in profits.

[–] SuperSleuth@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They'd have to implement ads eventually anyway. Companies do have budgets, and the money to run Threads has to come from somewhere.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Companies can and do make a loss to gain market share, they ae currently doing it with the metaverse and AI.

As twitter struggles under the spastic, they should be incentivising the move for users.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I wish more federated services had built in (optional) support for enabling ads so I didn't have to constantly worry about them shutting down. Especially peer tube.

[–] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 11 points 12 hours ago

I kinda wish more federated services also had built in, optional support for directly paying the people hosting the service and infrastructure.

[–] Cordinel@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 1 day ago

TIL Threads didn't have ads

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 126 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

"Since our priority is to build consumer value first and foremost, there are no ads or monetization features currently on Threads," a Meta spokesperson said in an emailed response.

The spokesperson then continued, "But only until early 2025. Then we'll be throwing consumer value in the trash and lighting it on fire. It will be very exciting."

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They’re not even hiding the enshittification strategy. They’re practically teaching you the principles up front.

“First we trap you, then we exploit you. Duh.”

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 14 hours ago

Well, this was the Facebook origin story, so anyone on Threads deserves it.

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is it enshittification if it's shit from the start?

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess you can always make it shittier?

I never understood the appeal of Threads anyway. Like, who leaves Xitter because it’s toxic garbage and goes to something owned by Meta, who practically invented this particular flavor of toxic garbage?

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 10 points 1 day ago

Sometimes you just grow tired of getting shot in the knee and want to be punch in the face instead

[–] wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 22 hours ago

Step 2 of the enshittification.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Consumer value as in number of valuable consumers we can grift later

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

You deserve a raise. Someone get this deadwalker a corner office!

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago
[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 75 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dear Pikachu, of course you are surprised. Learn how to expect and evade Team Rocket first.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 15 hours ago

How could those two suspiciously familiar faces with light violet and wine colored hairs possibly be Jessie and James from Team Rocket???

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

There aren't any ads on Mastodon. :)

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

yeah that is why i chose not to donate to the instance is that my home any longer.

when they decided to keep federated with threads they decided that they didn't need my donations.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 22 hours ago

You know that blocking threads account-wide on Mastodon 2 clicks and a confirmation?

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Still no reason to defederate, huh?

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Still no reason to defederate, huh?

No, it's not. Ads can't federate. Threads has no control over my Mastodon feed and Lemmy can't interact with Threads at all. Following Threads accounts from Mastodon is effectively an ad blocker.

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Might be a stupid question, but can't threads just post ads as "posts" via activityPub? On mastodon they would appear as toots?

Was just remembering how reddit introduced ads as basically promoted posts and recall facebook doing the same.

I sure fucking hope not.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Might be a stupid question, but can’t threads just post ads as “posts” via activityPub? On mastodon they would appear as toots?

Ads in Instagram are posts in the timeline from accounts you haven't followed. Ads don't show when you visit a profile and browse its images. So for example a post by Coca-Cola might appear in the main feed even though I never followed it but it has a little "sponsored" marker in a corner to indicate that it's there because Coke paid for it and the ad placement algorithm thinks that I might be interested in that product. As Threads is a spin-off from Instagram, ads there will surely follow the very same model. Sure, you might be able to follow Coca-Cola's Threads account from Mastodon and see the post promoting their drink that way but Threads just cannot place targeted ads on Mastodon because they don't control that feed.

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense for targeted ads for sure. Still a bit worried about hashtags being used for ads since I follow a lot of hashtags on mastodon and usually have a quite a nice "organic" feed compared to other social media.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still a bit worried about hashtags being used for ads

Coca-Cola could have an official profile on mastodon.social and use hashtags there as well. Whether corporations use hashtags or not in their "regular" Mastodon posts has nothing to do with Threads.

Also Mastodon has user-level features to restrict unwanted content to show up in your feed ranging from hiding boosts up to blocking the entire instance:

And since Lemmy cannot interact with Threads content at all, defederating Lemmy instances from Threads makes even less sense. One of the big Lemmy instances blocks Threads but doesn't block CSAM instances. Insane priorities their admins have.

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[–] net00@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ads can't federate

Never underestimate facebooks capacity to enshittify. If they want to send ads as posts they will make a way. In principle the fediverse should oppose for-profit-line-go-up fuckheads, it's always the same bullshit.

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 day ago (12 children)

How do you know that Threads won't inject ads as posts?

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I'm changing my vote in the Agora from "yes defederate" to "Hell fucking yes defederate.'

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The only surprising thing is that it took this long.

[–] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't used threads, I just assumed it already had ads

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[–] Eczpurt@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Did threads take off recently or what's the story? I thought it was unsuccessful as xitter was already the preferred platform

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I was wondering that too. All I hear about is BlueSky and then suddenly this.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 16 hours ago

I see official POTUS content on Mastodon because of Threads. I'd say that's pretty taken off

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

I thought it was unsuccessful as xitter was already the preferred platform

It isn't anymore, ad I expect that to accelerate. The Guardian just announced today that they will no longer use it, for example (although individual journalists may still choose to do so)

Meta auto created threads accounts for all instagram users iirc so they kinda forced thwir way into the market by pre inflating their numbers.

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