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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Why people cannot see that the core problem of twitter is not that it got bought by the asshole billionaire. It's that the asshole billionaire was able to buy it.

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 17 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Wasn't he forced to do so after trying to back out, or am I either imagining that or thinking of someone else?

[–] CellarRat@sh.itjust.works 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If I recall correctly he could have backed out but he would have had to pay I think 1billion as a penalty and worse admit things didnt go his way

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 14 points 15 hours ago

300 Billion dollar portfolio, 34 Billion dollar loss (~22 Billion after he writes it off in "taxes") and he has his own right-wing media company chocked full of nutters.

I don't think he cares much about the individual Billions much these days. Half his Tesla stock is securing his debt.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 21 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Ha ha ha, yeah, sure. Bluesky won't defeat xitter, at best it'll just be the "next thing" once xitter finally finishes getting rid of most of its users, which I guess will take more than 4 years from now.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 3 points 11 hours ago

It’ll only defeat X if corporations and specifically media and sports entities start using it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (8 children)

The great thing about BlueSky is how under-the-radar its flown for the last few years. Virtually no advertising. No legions of bot accounts spamming with invites and generic attention baiting posts. No |>u33y N |3io blowing up my mentions. No enshittification, because its just a primitive clone of the original Bird Site.

The more popular it gets, the less likely that'll last. BlueSky won't defeat Twitter until it becomes Twitter.

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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand how those two things are distinct.

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I guess they don't consider it bluesky defeating twitter if twitter is commiting suicide. Sounds like pedantry to me.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)
[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 3 points 11 hours ago

Digg did commit suicide. I was there for it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The key factor in Digg’s demise was a flawed design that was too easily abused by users. Digg had no controls over user verification, so individuals could game the system by creating multiple accounts to artificially inflate the number of votes for their own content. Because Digg displayed content in order of popularity, most visitors saw and voted only on content that was already popular. This system created a vicious cycle in which a small number of dedicated users could push their own content to the front page and thereby gain more followers, allowing them to more easily repeat the process. As Digg grew, so too did its problems related to power-hungry users cheating and gaining undue influence over content.

Sounds like the same problem that every centralized social media ecosystem suffers from. The big difference between Digg and Reddit was that Reddit successfully monetized the "push me to the front of the queue" algorithm rather than engineering around it.

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[–] Cool_Name@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (9 children)

Or... or... hear me out... everyone comes to lemmy?

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[–] geography082@lemm.ee 51 points 20 hours ago (11 children)

It should be Mastodon. This is the same shit with a different name

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Mastodon is more of a protocol than a single service. It succeeds/fails on those terms, in the same way the old Web1.0 protocols did. Which is to say, you can't enshitify a thousand micro-sites at once like you can enshittify one big site that's under central control. But you also can't do things like navigate, search, and socialize efficiently.

Mastodon is successful in large part because it isn't. When you let a single cartel of corporate psychos run a Mastodon account like they would a Twitter or Facebook, you end up with Truth Social (literally just a Mastodon branch instance).

[–] dan@upvote.au 7 points 13 hours ago

ActivityPub is the protocol though. Mastodon is an implementation of the protocol.

[–] nossaquesapao 5 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

That's an interesting perspective. Do you think the same about lemmy? While also decentralized using the sameprotocol, it seems reasonably efficient to me. I'm from a small instance from my country, and the global content is easily available to me.

I just have a lot of trouble explaining how it works to people who aren't tech savy... this is what I consider the main issue withthe fediverse as a whole.

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[–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Bluesky is (in theory) federated, but I think you can't run your own server yet. We'll see if they keep their promise.

Its protocol has some improvements over ActivityPub, for example you can use a domain name you own as your username even if you're not hosting your own instance, and your user identity is portable in that case - you can move to a different instance but keep the same username.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

They took crypto bros VC money.

Do we really think they’ll allow mass federation without getting returns on their investment?

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There was a good explanation about why not mastodon the other day. It basically boils down to Bluesky is just an easier transition.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, that's what I heard from my microblogging colleagues too. They tried Mastodon during the first wave of Twitter exodus, found it too frustrating/difficult, tried Bluesky and stuck with it ever since.

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[–] Odd_so_Star_so_Odd@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Born free 🎵

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 51 points 22 hours ago (8 children)

Let's replace one proprietary service with another. It looks so good with its API wide open, like it's never getting enshittified.

Bluesky is not proprietary, it's mit licensed and open source

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