Yep, this is a huge fucking problem.
Top bad the often proposed suggestion of "let's just skip right to the end" isn't actually a solution.
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Real sick of this argument right now. Just letting the right win because the left-most party is too willing to compromise isn't a moral victory.
The criticisms of the dem party don't amount to "let the right win", they amount to "the DNC prevents any political resistance to the right, they either need to be coup'd or destroyed if we want to stop the right from winning"
This is not how I have understood the criticisms being thrown around Lemmy lately, but I appreciate the perspective. Even so, I'm not sure I can agree that the best solution to dealing with the right is to fight the centrists first, but I can at least appreciate your point in the specific context of the current two-party system.
Even so, I’m not sure I can agree that the best solution to dealing with the right is to fight the centrists first
We aren't able to use electoralism to fight the right as long as the political platform and messaging of the democratic party is 95% the same as the republican's.
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We need ranked choice voting so people can vote for who they actually want without throwing away they vote. The problem is opposing ranked choice voting is one of very few issues both parties agree on, since it hurts both of them.
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I hate the term "normalization" because it doesn't mean anything to most people. The closest approximation of it's meaning to most people is "stuff (usually negative) is happening".
Please point me to the time in American history where it was normal to:
- pay taxes for everyone's health care
- follow international law
- not do extrajudicial killings/imprisonment
- not be personally or institutionally racist
Spoiler you cannot. These times literally do not exist in any meaningful way, they only exist as ephemeral pockets of modernity that you personally have experienced. Many of the arguments that you can make in favor of these points of time, suffer greatly from the just world fallacy. When you look a little too hard at those pockets of time, you'll find that your feeling was just a feeling and it wasn't even true.
This meme may be good at convincing libs their world view is fucked, but it's not an accurate depiction.
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The sad thing is that it works both ways. If a left party in government is improving things but had to do a compromise and therefore couldn't go all the way the far left is also complaining about that.
Compromise with far right positions should never happen, but compromise in itself is not something bad, and imho it's one of the main problems in today's democracy that too many people see it that way.
As with almost all things: it's good to have principles to stand by, but the world is rarely as black and white as it seems to be.
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