If they don’t want to text you because you don’t have an iPhone they’re not friends you want to have.
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Seen this sentiment that green bubbles = bad a few times online but never it's never come up for me. I assume this is a teen - early adult specific issue where the idea is mostly to be part of the group
It's been happening in high schools, to the point teens are bullied and pushed out of peer groups if they have Androids. It's frankly disgusting that apple willingly creates this division to profit off teenagers bullying each other, and they don't get called out for it enough.
But in the larger picture, it's definitely going to be more common among the young, because iPhones themselves are ubiquitous among the younger. It's something the tech space is slowly starting realize: Apple has almost total market dominance among the rising demographic, and this has led to increasing tech illiteracy due to the way Apple designs its software, and inability/refusal to learn anything else. That is a huge problem for the tech industry when the only thing they can do to find customers is dumb their software down to appeal to people that don't know how to use anything other than iOS
Perhaps in the US but it's not so pronounced elsewhere. I think I only know one person with an iPhone.
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I am an Android user but this comment should be taken very lightly. As this is not the cause the truth is that Apple is at fault here for still using SMS as the default messaging protocol. However, with that being said, SMS breaks messages on iPhone and the devices have been geared towards iPhone users in away that makes it seem like Android is the issue with image quality and texting. The marketing is excellent on Apple's end towards the competition and it is working.
However, that doesn't mean iPhone isn't the problem. I have a sibling who got bullied for having an iPhone. Apple's answer to these problems is just, "get an iPhone." This is equivalent to, "can't figure it out? Just Google it." The problem with this mentality is it gives more power to monopolizing platforms. Apple is a growing giant and if they had their way you would just have an iPhone and if Apple has expressed anything in the past 8 years it's that they aren't exactly the innovators with mobile devices anymore. To me the problem is on an iPhone nothing would change.
A little irrelevant rant but my point is that the average iPhone consumer has been given a marketing ploy so it is a deal breaker because they think it is an issue and in all fairness it is one but only Google is trying to fix. Issue is that Google should have tried to fix it years ago. You can't blame iPhone users for wanting to use other platforms to message you if your message is compressed heavily by Apple's shitty and stupid fucking decision to keep using SMS to control the market. The care about user experience is overshadowed by the desire to use that as a means to make money off of a user that doesn't understand messaging protocols. Fuck Apple.
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If anybody wants to judge me based on the brand of electronics I use, my favorite band or the brand of clothes I wear, I have no interest in interacting with them lol. This whole consumerist worship-culture is just toxic.
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Yes, but it's a feature, not a bug.
It's a super low investment and quick way to identify people you should avoid.
I think this must be a cultural thing because no one in the UK sends SMS messages. Everyone just uses WhatsApp or signal or telegram. I'm android and have literally never had anyone mention the colour of my bubble. I didn't know this was a thing!
I think it’s mostly an US thing. The rest of the world has moved away from SMS.
It's mostly a US thing because Android is the standard pretty much everywhere except the US.
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I use SMS in Denmark with people I don't know personally. Apps like Telegram or WhatsApp aren't common here (yet) unfortunately.
Everyone has Facebook and uses Messenger. The absolute worst of all the choices..
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Yeah, this is definitely a US-centric thing. Almost nobody I know (UK) uses SMS as their default, it's usually the last resort before just ringing the person.
I think the only SMS messages I get are from the Doctor.
Mine are just for 2FA.
I'm from the US and people are using SMS less and less I feel like (though again, I'm biased because Android). Even most of my networking for work is done on Instagram, which to me is incredibly bizarre.
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I don't understand the apple cult. I've tried their phones. I prefer Android phones.
I have heard of some people who think non apple users are subpar, but those are the ones you want to avoid.
I worked for Apple for about 4 years and few people had Apple devices, despite the discount. I was supplied an iMac and MacBook Pro, but also a Windows PC and notebook that most work was done on because of software support. Most employees were obviously into their tech, so Android was by far the most popular for mobile devices. I remember a guy with a Windows phone.
No one judged, though. Having obviously used a lot of gadgets extensively, people understood that people land on what they like the most and there's no right or wrong with personal opinion.
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In some social circles, yes. Teenagers tend to cling into anything that could potentially be interpreted as a social status symbol or group identity - in the US, for some bizarre reason, people still use the default messaging app and SMS so iMessage and it's "green vs blue bubble" design immediately fills this space. This can also show up in very shallow dating scenes, like someone using Tinder and just looking for a random hook up with a nice dinner beforehand - they could see the iPhone as a sign of wealth and available money to spend.
But for most adults, living normal lives... I don't think so. At least, never have been an issue with any of my friends, family members, academic peers, coworkers...
in the US, for some bizarre reason
Is it really that bizarre to use the default messaging app that uses the most widespread protocol(s)?
Yes? SMS is ancient, limited, and Apple's added proprietary layer on top of it isn't interoperable so "most widespread protocol" doesn't even make sense.
There's a reason Asia, Europe and South America aren't using SMS in 2023.
And you know, it's a smartphone, installing apps is kinda the whole point.
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Maybe not bizarre, but I think the regional differences are just intereting. I am living in central europe and I honestly don't know anyone who used SMS in the last 5-10 years. The only reason to use it is when your data ran out.
Yeah my last 52 texts are all from companies about my orders or my bills etc. No actual humans use SMS anymore
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I never had a IPhone but if they don't Text you because you don't use a IPhone... That sounds crazy.
iPhone user here, no. I don’t care what other people use and I really find the Android vs iPhone debate both done-to-death and incredibly boring. Most often, from both sides, it’s just people (kids most likely) stroking their own egos in an attempt to argue with someone and feel superior.
I use an android tablet currently for art. I’m very familiar with android and even some degree of programming knowledge. It’s great. My iPhone is just as good in that it does what I need it to do and I understand other people don’t feel the same, which is absolutely fine.
Fuck blue bubbles lmao that’s some cult shit tbh.
Oh also, Memmy is amazing.
In my experience, no, especially outside of the US.
In many places/countries, there are more android than iphone users. This is especially true in developing countries, but also some developed ones too. It's not uncommon for everyone in these areas to use alternative messaging platform like whatsapp, telegram, or line, so there was barely any difference between android and iphone.
So it's barely a deal-breaker, at least, in this scenario.
It’s not a dealbreaker for me but I try to push everyone I can to Signal anyway more secure and private than iMessage.
This is mainly an issue in the United States and Canada.
Maybe it's a US vs Europe thing but as a European, most messaging (for better or worse, probably worse since it's Meta) is done via whatsapp, where messages appear the same for iPhone and Android users, if somebody messages me through SMS I'd probably think it was a scam or they're really old, no-one I know uses SMS anymore.
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One of my acquaintances started a fairly large group text thread recently. Somewhere along the way someone said, "Who's the android user in here ruining everything?" I never said anything in the thread, so I felt like I was in the corner of a crowded room wearing a disguise about to be exposed.
I was also pretty annoyed. Like, what's it matter? Texts are for text. Text works fine.
If you think you're better than me because you have an iPhone and I run an Android, I don't want to talk to you anyway.
People are so fucking petty and elitist over the dumbest fucking things.
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iPhone user here. Not a dealbreaker, but I can explain why some people may want to switch platforms. Blue bubble iMessages go out over the Internet--wifi, cell data, whatever. Green bubbles need cell signal and go over the cell network as an SMS, Blue bubbles can go out over cell network (via data), but they also can go out via wifi.
For me this means green bubbles cause a couple issues:
- Many places I go do not have cell coverage. Sometimes its a dead area because of mountains, sometimes its an office building that is too thick. In both cases, iMessage blue bubbles still work. Green bubbles do not.
- When I travel internationally I might not purchase an International plan. But you can bet the hotel I am staying at and most bars/restaurants I can go to have wifi. This means I can still communicate without buying a SIM card or purchasing a data plan. FURTHER, even if I did purchase a SIM card, now we are talking international SMS messages which cost a ton.
Now not a dealbreaker. I just move those conversations to Whatapp, Messenger, Line, KakaoTalk, whatever. It's not a big deal. And definitely not a dealbreaker. If it's a dealbreaker for someone that should be a red flag.
I can still be friends with someone even if they did choose the wrong phone ;) /s
I'm an android user that's been messaging and calling over the internet using the default messaging and calling apps for years. What you're describing isn't an android limitation, it's a vendor comparability and standards issue. And I've had just as many problems with iphone users breaking my group texts among android using groups. The fact is that sms on iPhone is broken by design, but because you're all broken in the same way you won't see it.
The above comment is a perfect example of the biggest issue: iPhone users don't understand what's happening and blame Android for it.
This is exactly why I'll never buy from Apple, the first problem in addition to the horrible contrast is intentionally caused by them so you will think other services are inferior. Either that or it's your cell provider, I've been able to text and call over Wi-Fi for years.
Google FI also works with networks from all over the world for no extra cost so that's really nice for international travel.
I came in here expecting to explain why I'll never have an iPhone lol
I had forgotten about the stupid thing where teenagers care about the color of your text bubble
There's a podcast I listen to where the LA comedians routinely use Android as a punchline, while clearly having very little understanding of it. They talk about android users as if they're this bizarre group of social outcasts and libertarians. Tech isn't the topic of the podcast, it's just something I notice any time Android comes up during improv or something. Like this is a well they routinely fall back on. And a lot of guests seem to think something similar.
So I believe there is a weird stigma, but it exists in certain areas more than others. LA is iPhone country, lot of people there see Android as some subpar aberration.
This is some sort of childish tech-classist B.S. Like you wouldn't talk to a friend because of the shoes they wore or the car they drove. Who cares about people like that?
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Not to mention that any problems caused by green bubble lack of compatibility are Apple's fault, not Android's.
If you live anywhere outside of the US, the question is irrelevant, because everyone uses whatsapp etc.
Within the US, if you are over the age of 30, it probably doesn't matter.
if you are under the age of 30 AND in the US, I mean, if someone does judge you for it, you at least have a great way to filter shitty people out of your life lol.
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Maybe for some teenagers, kids...
It’s because of you have a green bubble, none of the iMessage features will work, so it’s better to use another, more feature rich platform to communicate.
I get that some teenagers or whatever make a big deal out of it but that’s all it is really. I have an iPhone and I use discord to talk to my friends who have Android phones. It’s never been a problem.
I wish those people understood the full history of Apple making every effort of creating this problem on purpose to create this effect. They've done everything in their power to stop any standard being introduced between the OSes and to introduce features that create this "iPhone vs others" clique bullshit.
Yet these kids and even adults act like it's an android problem. I hate how corporations always win like this, they know exactly how to manipulate people and it works.
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I could see some features they might want like texts not counting as an SMS or higher quality pics. Using an app fixes those issues so is whatever. Not texting at all is agreeable but don't expect me to reach out...
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