No Stupid Questions

I've had an iPhone for a long time and I've never got a person sending me a SMS. All I get are automatic messages about deliveries and stuff. I guess iMessage is more a thing in the USA?

For me, I'm technologically inclined and like to be helpful. As such, I would not date an iphone user as I do not know how to fix their phones, and that would make me feel sad that I couldn't help. Also, as an iphone user, it seems like they'd rather just buy a new stupidly phone than take the time to figure out how their device actually works, and that massively clashes with how I view things.

Which country are we talking about?

I barely know people using iOS, much less being elitist about it.

I'm not sure if it is possible for me to care less what type of phone somebody uses.

If I found out somebody was judging me based on my phone I would seriously consider breaking up with them.

I'm surprised and dismayed we are even having this conversation, and some of the other replies are deeply troubling.

Lmao

Green texts are the worst mostly because (I’m convinced) apple has programmed Messages to intentionally lose them to make group texts with android users a nightmare to deal with, in an attempt at social pressure on android users to get an iPhone.

They are wildly inconsistent in their delivery success. Often times texts will either never go through to some members of the group or go through at random times. Also sent videos are always horribly compressed. Obvious solution would be to use a third party messaging app but but convincing everyone to do that is usually a nonstarter.

What it is though is green texts are just sms messages, which is the original text message protocol that uses cellular infrastructure to deliver the message. Blue texts are sent via the Messages app over the internet so they are likely just more reliable and quick to deliver.

People that buy Apple are some of the most superficial beings on this planet.

Who gives a fuck about text bubbles?

Find friends that aren't so shallow.

Everyone I know uses WhatsApp, and they're not childish enough for carrying about green or blue bubbles. So weird.

I don't care much about iMessage. All the people I know who are not an iPhone users use facebook messenger and cry about how bad quality sending pictures and videos are. But do nothing to change that. Thats the problem. I was going though hell to convince my girlfriend to use Signal to chat with me. Because she is an Android user. I hate FB, Insta, WhatsApp and all that stuff.

I honestly get it. Apple has been excruciatingly stubborn to adopt RCS.

But they won't. Because they want users to be pissed off enough to get an iPhone.

That being said, I don't think it's worth hating iOS over. Or vise versa, iOS users just being petty and not texting you because you have an Android. Kinda off topic but the internet loves to shit on Apple.....

Meanwhile I'm over here with a Galaxy S20, iPhone 11 Pro, MacBook Pro, and a mid range Dell laptop running Windows 10.

Also incredibly off topic, but IMO both Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro are superior to anything you can find on Windows. FL Studio comes close though. I hear Abelton Live is good too.

I'm just saying both platforms do the same things very well, and both platforms do some things better than eachother. Troubleshooting on Mac is a breeze whereas on Windows it's god awful. The UI on macOS is so much more consistent than Windows.

Windows has better platform support and doesn't depreciate APIs nearly as much as macOS. (Then again, DirectX 12 dropped support for Windows 7.....WHY).

The file explorer on Windows, while not as pretty, gives you much more control over the Finder in macOS. Windows gives you better user control over Disk Management too IMO. And of course, Windows is better for gaming. That might change over the next 5 years though which I am very happy about.

Also, the Control Panel is fucking awesome and I have no idea why Microsoft continues to try and depreciate it for the trashy Settings app. It has everything you need.

Bit of a rant there.

I don't even hate Apple that much, but what I hate is that every time I find out somebody I know uses Apple product I say to myself in quiet "Oh gosh...", because very often the reason they use Apple whatever is to feel better than somebody.

And I hate people like these. Not every Apple enjoyer is like that, and there are legitimate reasons to go Apple, like wanting that ecosystem, good camera,, using something that just works or go with Apple Silicon revolution. And no, Apple is not really private.

But in most cases their reasons are either a fucking IM bubbles (because I don't want to spend 5 seconds to install an app that works anywhere) or it just "doesn't lag" (which any phone over $200 doesn't) which is obviously a fucking bullshit to cover the actual answer which is "I wanted to feel better by having shit that every fancy person uses".

But the funniest people are the ones trying to explain these "amazing features" to me, totally ignoring the points that IM sucks on Android because Apple pushes their own standard and refuses to use open ones, that no sideloading and Apple controlling whole app ecosystem is the best thing ever and that Android is slow, because it [put any argument Apple fanboy without the basic OS concepts understanding would make] and not because you used $100 phone and switched to a motherfucking $600 phone. Wow, who would've thought?

Only the most superficial of people would use this reason as a method for diminishing or isolating someone.

I would question my relationship with them if this is their outlook.

Dude… let it go. Seriously. You’re clearly trying to drum up some drama. It doesn’t matter what people use. It doesn’t effect you at all. They will use what they want, and you will use what you want.

And I’ve read that post. You’re fishing from conflict there as well, but most of the responses were well thought out reasons for using the product- you just didn’t like/agree with them. So now you’re here trying again.

If you have such a hate-boner for apple, don’t use apple.

Deal with it.

SMS sucks. That's the real issue. The fact that an Android user being present in a group chat drags the chat's feature set back down to SMS level is what people are reacting to. (Fortunately, iOS 17 will fix this, at least for the iOS users in the group chat).

Having it be a friendship deal-breaker is childish, though.

I have an iPhone... For me if I see the green bubbles that means that the messages are SMS which is insecure and antiquated. I use iMessage and Signal because they are more secure and allow for sending rich media like photos and videos without worrying about MMS and SMS. I have massive amounts of data, why the heck would I use SMS to send messages? It has nothing to do with hating Android, it's more to do with SMS being hot garbage.

To clarify, if you only have SMS, that's fine I don't care and it doesn't affect our relationship, but given the choice I will always default to an end to end encrypted messengers.

I think this is mostly an issue in the US. The rest of the world uses a variety of messaging apps instead of text messaging. Here in South Africa WhatsApp and Telegram are prevalent.