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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No need to sound like a political science textbook. Birth control means you don't have to get pegnorate!

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

PREG...PREGANANANT?

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pro-lifers don't care.

All they care about is the fact that the white population will decrease as no one can afford/wants children, so the best way to remedy that is to force them to.

[–] WbrJr@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago

I was confused at first, what you meant by professional-lifer

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

How else would one mass-produce gullible, uneducated voting cattle to exploit and fleece?

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Which is why republicans and conservatives want it gone: they want you to have children.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They want having children to be a woman's punishment for unapproved sex, and they want the kid (who had zero responsibility for creating that situation) to suffer through it along with her, with zero help so it's all as unpleasant as possible, cuz apparently that makes Baby Jesus smile. Fucking lunatics.

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At its core it's about population control. As the birth rate is falling capitalism needs bodies to keep the cogs turning.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

To a certain extent, but capitalism always adjusts to changes in birth rates. Reducing payroll has been a trend since the 80s, accelerating with computers, robotics, and now AI.

They want you to have children, and they want you to do it before you're ready. They want you to be barely surviving so you can't afford to switch jobs or take time off. They want you too powerless to have any leverage over your ~~owner~~ employer.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

New meat MUST be bred to feed the machine of infinite growth.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 60 points 3 days ago

The worst part is draconic abortion bans also hurt those trying to have children. No one's getting recreational third trimester abortions. You picked out a name, painted the nursery. Late term abortions are tragedies to all parties, and only ever happen because of life threatening conditions.

I wouldn't want to plan a child when any complication could mean death.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago

They know, that's the point.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] starbrite@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ikr? Lemmy is 99% stuff like this, when really all i want to do on here is laugh

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Yes. It gets tiring. There aren't even breaks in between "zomg! Look what trump and friends are doing! We are so much better" memes over and over and over and over.

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[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Birth control is nothing more than a form of medical technology. People against birth control and abortion(also medical technology) are Medical Luddites.

They must be afraid of losing their jobs at crisis pregnancy centers, or be afraid they won't be allowed to shame young single mothers anymore.

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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Absolutely. Which is exactly the reason they want to take it away from you.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

might be preaching to the choir a little bit

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I know I'm probably wrong here, and I'm willing to be better informed, but I don't like the phrasing of abortion as mere "birth control," as if it were equal to methods that prevent conception or implantation.

Do people really feel it's not a different sort of act, or would people be comfortable using abortion as their sole means of birth control (if it were safe and inconsequential to the woman)? And yes, I understand that the morning after pill is something of a gray area.

Also yes, I am a Christian. But I understand that there are good reasons for abortion remaining legal.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Abortion as birth control is a lie they've been harping on for decades. No one does that. No one says, "Aw crap! Preggers again, off to the abortionplex!"

I've impregnated two women that had abortions. I won't go into the details, but we talked about it, decided to do it, and they were both emotionally crushed. The second woman lost her ability to ever have children from the procedure.

Abortion is not a thing to be taken lightly, and no one does.

And thanks for sticking your neck out and asking around here. Surprised you weren't excoriated.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

It's just another way Lemmy isn't Reddit. If you try not to be an ass about it, you can ask just about anything.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Abortion is, by definition, a form of birth control, but I don't think most people would ever consider it to be equal to other forms of controlling birth. However, let's not forget that for a lot of people abortion is quite literally the only birth control they may have access to, and even that access may come at huge risk. There are often family, social, religious (this is the big one), or cultural pressures that get in the way of accessing contraceptives until it is too late.

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Pro-lifers do not care a single bit

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