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[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

it's what all this is about in the end.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

This is looting, and looters in war are shot.

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 8 points 7 months ago

Nah, not if it's corporations or whole countries.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

But this is what the war IS about. Which empire gets those precious minerals. Whoever wins will be entitled to the spoils that ukraine will owe them for winning the war. No matter which side wins.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Let's not forget the word "privatization" was coined by the British to describe what was happening in 1930s Germany

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

you weren't kidding,

The term privatizing first appeared in English, with quotation marks, in the New York Times, in April 1923, in a translation of a German speech referring to the potential for German state railroads to be bought by American companies.[5] In German, the word Privatisierung has been used since at least the 19th century.[6] Ultimately, the word came to German through French from the Latin privatus.[7]

The term reprivatization, again translated directly from German (Reprivatisierung), was used frequently in the mid-1930s as The Economist reported on Nazi Germany's sale of nationalized banks back to public shareholders following the 1931 economic crisis. (link)

It always felt, in my adulthood, like they are trying to sell off anything they can in the US like we're a defunct company about to go out of business and the new ceo is trying to scam as much as possible. Guess that's just another point for America being like Germany before a fascist takeover.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago
[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 6 points 7 months ago
[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

A huge part of the war is this. Ukraine has assets that Western capitalists crave.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

🇮🇳🇨🇳🇧🇩🇰🇪🇮🇪Hey, I've seem this one, it's a classic

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

Aid? Or loans?

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Was Ukraine considered very socialist before Russia invaded?

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

No, but a lot of assets were still publicly owned. Now they will be privatized and sold off.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Ukraine switched from russian exploitation to liberal exploitation after the "orange revolution". So this process of redirecting extracted resources from one empire to another has been continued and expanded after the invasion.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The only way out of this is putting an end to humanity's ability to do empires. This ability has a mutually assured off button on the two human parasite bossman's desks. One of these buttons is currently within the reach of Ukraine's rocket artillery. While they will be smashed as well, the survivors would have the first opportunity in centuries for freedom