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Hexbear Proposals chapo.chat matrix room.

This will be a place for site proposals and discussion before implementation on the site.
Every proposal will also be mirrored into a pinned post on the hexbear community.

Any other ideas for helping to integrate the two spaces are welcome to be commented here or messaged to me directly.

Within Hexbear Proposals you can see the history of all site proposals and react to them, indicating a vote for or against a proposal.

Sending messages will be restricted to verified and active hexbear accounts older than 1 month with their matrix id in their hexbear user profile.

All top level messages within the channel must be a Proposals (idea for changing the site), Feedback (regarding non-technical aspects of the site, for technical please use https://hexbear.net/c/feedback), or Appeals (regarding admin/moderator actions).

Discussion regarding these will be within nested threads under the post.

To gain matrix verification, all you need to do is navigate to my hexbear userprofile and click the send a secure private message including your hexbear username.

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"Imperialism leaves behind germs of rot which we must clinically detect and uproot from our land but from our minds as well." - Frantz Fanon

Hello users of Hexbear, the intent of this announcement is two-fold the first is that we would like to do another community moderator drive, if you have a community idea or want to help an existing one then please send an application either through hexbear or matrix direct message.

The call for new mods is crucial to our efforts to reduce racism and misogyny on the site, we need users to report and enough mods to be able to quickly act on the reports throughout the day and night. Also, CW or content warnings are essential to the safe browsing of Hexbear.

In addition, comments or posts removed for racist or misogyny will also be accompanied by escalating temporary bans. Upvotes will not be the single reason for a ban, however they may be used in conjunction with other posts/comments/upvotes. Consider this post the warning, however, mods are encouraged to reach out to hexbear users before a long duration ban.

The second is to increase transparency with regard to the site while not repeating the mistakes of previous attempts that were ultimately counterproductive, in part due to wreckers.

Previous attempts to increase site transparency and user participation were targeted by wreckers through increasing the intensity and frequency of struggle session drama.

Using matrix's increased level of user permissions as an anti-wrecking measure while having an increased barrier to sending messages with a clear process to gaining the ability to send messages, we hope to mitigate wrecking attempts.

Leading to the creation of the Hexbear Proposals chapo.chat matrix room.

This will be a place for site proposals and discussion before implementation on the site.
Every proposal will also be mirrored into a pinned post on the hexbear community. Any other ideas for helping to integrate the two spaces are welcome to be commented here or messaged to me directly.

Within Hexbear Proposals you can see the history of all site proposals and react to them, indicating a vote for or against a proposal.

Sending messages will be restricted to verified and active hexbear accounts older than 1 month with their matrix id in their hexbear user profile.

All top level messages within the channel must be a Proposals (idea for changing the site), Feedback (regarding non-technical aspects of the site, for technical please use https://hexbear.net/c/feedback), or Appeals (regarding admin/moderator actions).

Discussion regarding these will be within nested threads under the post.

To gain matrix verification, all you need to do is navigate to my hexbear userprofile and click the send a secure private message including your hexbear username.

In closing, I want to state that this site would not exist without the volunteer labor of the moderators, who I am deeply grateful for.

I would also like to take this moment to remind people that lemmy direct messages are not encrypted, and finally please use this post to discuss these changes, share community ideas, or express interest in moderation.

Application

What is your Hexbear username?

Do you have any preferred pronouns?

What are your thoughts on capitalism?

What are your thoughts on imperialism?

What are your thoughts on trans rights?

What are your thoughts on racial justice?

What do think about current and previous protests around the world?

What are your thoughts on Veganism and Animal Liberation?

Do you have any experience with other leftist online communities?

What did those experiences teach you?

What is your approach to moderation, and how do you work with teams?

How do you deal with online drama and people who try to start things for the sake of it?

What current comms would you be interested in moderating?

Do you have any ideas for community engagement?

What is your general time availability? (Time zone, amounts, common browsing times, etc)

Element informationElement is a messaging app that lets you talk to people over the Matrix protocol.

To get started, check out this link, where you can choose to either download Element for your platform or, if on a computer, open it in a browser.

The instructions that follow are for the desktop application and the web application, but the process is similar on all apps:

Press "Create Account"

We host our own Matrix server, so if you want you can change matrix.org to chapo.chat.

This is completely optional; users who sign up with a matrix.org username can still talk to people with chapo.chat username.

(Note: It is chapo.chat, not hexbear.net. Also, registrations aren't always open on chapo.chat; if they're not, just create an account on matrix.org)

Fill in a username and password

Hit register, and you're done!

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[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ty for the explanation.

response under spoiler tag to keep thread length manageable

I am personally changing the way I use the site to be more thorough about how and when I upbear comments and posts.

Rather than pre-emptively upbearing a comment or post as I come to it, reading it, scrolling down and then removing the upvote if I disagree, I will only upbear after I have fully read it. It is going to take a while to replace the old habit and it requires a more deliberate and thorough reading of each comment and post but I think it is ultimately for the better.

I cannot assume by default that because I'm browsing HB first that the content is anodyne, and I do not want comrades, especially those marginalised, to see my upbears as signs of endorsement of questionable or objectionable content or ideology. Going forward, I accept that that's how they are seen by enough (if not the majority) of the user base so that's how I will use them.

I unreservedly apologise for the times that I have upvoted horrendous content. I am not going to pretend that all of that is through inattention, force of habit or incorrect reading either. I know there are times when I have consciously upvoted a comment or post that I have understood and agreed with that was later removed. On the occasions I have noticed, I have removed my upvote and visited the mod log to learn why. I will educate myself more and excise the brainworms.

It is good to know that mods will look at posting history and upbear patterns as additional context before taking actions, and that reassures me that the limited interventions are not arbitrary for HB users


[–] 2812481591@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I almost never upvote anything intentionally, so I've used Ublock Origin to filter all of the upvote buttons.

If you would like to do the same, here is the code:

spoiler

hexbear.net##button:matches-attr(aria-label="/Upvote/"):style(pointer-events: none !important)
hexbear.net##.text-muted.px-1.py-0.btn-link.btn-sm.btn-animate.btn
hexbear.net###comment-5667690 > .ms-2 > .small.text-muted.align-items-center.flex-wrap.d-flex .unselectable .text-muted.btn-link.btn-sm.btn-animate.btn > .hexbear-score-icon.icon-inline.me-1.icon > use
hexbear.net##.featured-posts > div.mt-2.post-listing > .d-sm-block.d-none > .post-container.row > .flex-grow-0.col > .text-center.small.vote-bar > .text-muted.p-0.btn-link.btn.btn-animate > .upvote.icon
hexbear.net##.main-content-wrapper > div > div > div.mt-2.post-listing > .d-sm-block.d-none > .post-container.row > .flex-grow-0.col > .text-center.small.vote-bar > .text-muted.p-0.btn-link.btn.btn-animate > .upvote.icon

If you have any suggestions, please share them. I couldn't figure out how to make the score counter unclickable without deleting it.

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[–] whatnots@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

i remember that trans comrade mentioned a plan to make amendments and updates to the hexbear code of conduct and site rules to make things clearer for everyone. i thought that was a good idea, is that still happening? obviously no rush i was just wondering is all.

i think that a lot of the suprise here (moreso speaking around the temp bans for the upvotes) may be mitigated by being reflected in the site rules and establishing how upvotes are viewed by mods and admins in the overall site culture. making it clearer how upvotes are expected to be used may be helpful especially for autistic and nd comrades to reference so then they can know the context a bit better as well.

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the code of conduct is fine, as ThermonuclearEgg pointed out earlier, but we are making it clear that upvotes will be taken into consideration when a moderator acts.

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[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 51 points 2 days ago (19 children)

I'd just like to say I love all my hexbears. I hate seeing what has been going on lately because this place is the only good thing on the internet. I hope we are able to emerge from these struggle sessions stronger and better but I'm having a hard time holding on to my bloomerism.

Fuck it close all the comms and embrace Megathreadism! Nothing bad ever happens in a Megathread. (this is a joke... mostly)

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago (23 children)

My anxiety is telling me that people hate the main site because I post there doomjak

[–] TanneriusFromRome@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

I barely ever comment, but will absolutely pop out of the woodwork to join the chorus.

Your posting always gives me little bits of joy in my day, and the community is much better for having you in it meow-hug

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago
[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

You're generally pretty positive and I'm never unhappy to see owlposting.

[–] whatnots@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago

not true!!! i always enjoy your posting! meow-hug

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You're my favourite owl and this site would be worse without you

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

Your anxiety is a fucking dick! If I could I'd punch it for making you feel doomjak The best I can do is say that I find your posting very enjoyable.

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[–] amberSuperMario@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Personally, I am in favor of giving people a timeout if they upvote reactionary comments/posts. A one day temp ban and a note saying why seems like a completely reasonable response to me. Also in favor of getting rid of upvotes altogether, though it kinda defeats the purpose of being on a reddit clone to begin with so idk.

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We host our own Matrix server, so if you want you can change matrix.org to chapo.chat.

Element says

Registration has been disabled on this homeserver.

for chapo.chat

Element says chapo.chat registration is disabled

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

If someone wants a chapo.chat account you can request one via direct message, it was targeted by wreckers in the past

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

If marginalized comrades continue to speak about aspects of this site that make them uncomfortable, then we have more brainworms to remove and work to be done. I don't expect that process to ever fully end, either, until Imperialism, colonialism, and Capitalism have been abolished worldwide. That's all I really have to say about this subject, and all I will say. shrug-outta-hecks

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[–] Yukiko@hexbear.net 53 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In addition, comments or posts removed for racist or misogyny will also be accompanied by escalating temporary bans. Upvotes will not be the single reason for a ban, however they may be used in conjunction with other posts/comments/upvotes. Consider this post the warning, however, mods are encouraged to reach out to hexbear users before a long duration ban.

Good. Me getting slapped for what I've said twice now was nonsense. My fighting for trans and minority folks should've clued you folks in to the fact that maybe, just maybe, I didn't read the whole fucking post. Hells, you, Carcosa, have had experience with my bitchiness in the past for me fighting for my trans comrades, so it was kinda bonkers to get banned for that reason.

Seriously glad you're attempting to shed these issues. Cause like, the site's slowly dying and accelerating it through nonsense actions is just going to kill it much quicker than its expiration date.

That being said, I'm not removing my uBlock rule for the fucking upbear button. I'm not chancing that shit again.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Where do you get the idea that the sites dying? Before federation we had like 500 users a day and now it's almost double that.

Not trying to be a dick or anything. I just genuinely don't understand the recent doomerism given that we've been through struggle sessions before and only come out stronger each time so far.

Granted, I stay out of most struggle sessions, so sorry if I'm being ignorant about what this is all about.

[–] Yukiko@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (13 children)

We currently have no real method with which to increase our user base reliably. We’ve stagnated. Our daily user count has been dropping slowly since then and, without users coming in, it will slowly die. It’s also easy to say that all of this drama as of late is driving people off. All these factors taken into account and we will eventually die. User retention is extremely important when you’re not sitting on a major website.

Also, federation was a couple years ago at this point. It did do us well, but any influx of users we would’ve seen from it has long passed.

I ***try *** to stay out of these damned things myself, but somehow after being on this site for over four years and avoiding it entirely, I’ve managed to get caught up in the last two. It’s incredibly stressful, but sometimes it’s for a good cause.

[–] Halloweenbean@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

I am pretty sure this site is now wholly dependent on the news mega and the Trans mega. Punishing upvotes will weaken them too.

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