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Nintendo targets Reddit pirates in piracy crackdown (overkill.wtf)

submitted 1 day ago by mesamunefire@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The big ones:

Now Nintendo is seeking the court’s approval to actually subpoena Reddit for user records. These records, if shared, could identify additional moderators or users tied to the r/SwitchPirates subreddits. Nintendo argues that these records are critical to building their case against others in the alleged piracy ...

In addition to requesting records from Reddit, Nintendo's filing also makes appeals for information from other companies, including domain registrars such as Namecheap and GoDaddy, along with firms such as Cloudflare, Github, Google, and Discord.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Kinda weird that I'm rooting for reddit, a company I hate, against Nintendo, a company that usually brings me joy.

But here we are.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Any time Nintendo is involved in a legal case, you can pretty safely assume they're probably wrong.

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

On the other hand, r/switchpirates is transparently a community for the express purpose of pirating Nintendo games for their current system. It’s one of the rare cases where I think they probably can make a slam-dunk legal case to shut it down.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To shut it down, sure. To get information on accounts simply for posting there? They can fuck off.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nintendo is definitely overstepping with that request, but I can't say I feel bad for the subset of Redditors shitting their pants because they admitted to distributing* ROMs. Trusting a corporation to protect you from the consequences of your actions is a level of stupidity beyond deserving sympathy.

*Specifically distributing. Not downloading. Not discussing. Distributing.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Talking is irrelevant. It's debatable whether they're actually entitled to even compel the sub to be closed, as they didn't allow links to anything infringing, and discussion is protected. I just ignored that because I don't care.

Nothing there says anything that indicates there is any effort to restrict the information gathering to people actively distributing anything on the relevant platforms. Trying to demand the personal information of participants in discussions without direct, explicit proof that that account actually distributed pirated content makes them bad people. It is not excusable behavior.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Talking is irrelevant. It's debatable whether they're actually entitled to even compel the sub to be closed, as they didn't allow links to anything infringing, and discussion is protected. I just ignored that because I don't care.

There's a distinction between talking about piracy and admitting to committing copyright infringement on a public forum: the former is discussion, and the latter is self-incrimination. It's not going to actually matter unless that person makes themselves worthwhile to go after, but that doesn't make it any less stupid of an idea to admit to it in the first place.

Trying to demand the personal information of participants in discussions without direct, explicit proof that that account actually distributed pirated content makes them bad people. It is not excusable behavior.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that I'm excusing Nintendo's overreaching demands from. Nowhere in my comment did I claim that Nintendo is entitled to any of the requested information.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

No, there isn't. Admission is unconditionally not grounds to gain information.

The literally only way there's any grounds to give them a single bit of information is in response to a direct, clear, action facilitating distribution of specific content Nintendo owns. They could provide direct evidence that they have pirated every piece of content Nintendo has ever made and it would not be excusable for Nintendo to even ask for their information.

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[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

They used to be pretty strict about posting links. If that's still the case, it's literally just a discussion forum discussing and promoting something illegal and not necessarily doing anything illegal. I'll wager that the judge would only sign off on information from users that Nintendo already has enough evidence against. But I guess we'll see.

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[–] hakase@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

As a lifelong Nintendo fan, I've been rooting against them in pretty much everything for close to a decade at this point.

[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Subpoenaing Reddit for user records because some guy emulated a videogame made for your crappy handheld console.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (5 children)

Target them all you want, the links are on gdrive and mega and the owners will just move to advertising them somewhere else, Tumblr, throwaway eBay listings, Spotify playlists,... here.

Entire romsets for gb, gbc, gba, N64, SNES, etc have all been on piratebay for over a decade, not to mention the 4-5 300Gb+ curated sets out there... wherever they are.

Good luck there, Nintenbros. Keep swinging that axe. We'll keep growing heads.

It also helps that the golden age is over and each system now only gets around 10 or so exclusives worth a shit so there's less Switch games needed for a good set compared to past generations. Thanks, Nintendo. Quality over quantity.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

The main thing they are trying to do is make it more difficult to find this stuff via google, which tbh is still easy without reddit.

But even Switch homebrew has been a pain. Most of it is one off software made years ago because no sane dev wanted to actually keep up with all the firmware releases and limited control of CFW. Github/Gitlab repos keep getting banned left and right for tools not even related to piracy.

3DS has full fledged apps with teams behind everything and HShop which makes it very easy for everyone. Switch still doesn't have a definitive method of handling NSP/XCIs, and all the auto download internet repos are invite only to hide from Nintendo.

I'm really hoping someone finds some serious hardware bypass in their next console after what they did to the emulation scene. They really deserve to go through the insane R4 piracy age all over again for nuking everything online.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

It also helps that the golden age is over

Even the stone age is coming to an end - in favor of clay dicks. Talking about games.

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