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AOC Says Climate Movement Must Become 'Too Big and Too Radical to Ignore'
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I can't wait for her to be president!
this post was submitted on 19 Sep 2023
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That would be an exceptionally good day.
I'm liberal, but holy shit the division from that happening would make Obama and Trump seem like warmups
No... Don't you see?
No matter how centrist or moderate democratic candidate is, the Republicans call them communist, socialist pedophiles.
They've painted themselves into a corner. We could nominate a full-on Marxist flag-burner, and they would have nothing left to say about them that they didn't already say about Obama and Biden.
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I am not an American, so I have to ask: Is AOC really that radical? To me she looks like a left leaning liberal with the most radical idea being MMT. Other then that it is normal talking points of a left leaning politican.
any other country would view AOC and Bernie as centrist at best – but our Overton window has shifted so far right that centrist is seen as full-on revolutionary communist …
I honestly thought they were some European style social democrat types, but then I looked up their climate policies and turns out Macron has actually passed more radical climate laws then the two of them are even proposing. It is insane how Americans believe that two politicans would be revolutionary communist, when a former investment banker turned neoliberal politican is more radical then them.
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You say that like the person even matters. As long as there is a D next to their name the other side will act like the world is ending. Literally.
I'm liberal but the first thing that comes to mind about this advancement is something negative. I would prefer a negative peace, an absence of conflict, to a positive peace. I'm a liberal.
Stop I can only get so hard
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she applauded the climate movement for starting to "crack the grip" which the fossil fuel industry holds on the nation's political economy.
"That's because of you," she said to those in the crowd. "Don't let the cynics win. The cynics want us to think that this isn't worth it. The cynics want us to believe that we can't win. The cynics want us to believe that organizing doesn't matter; that our political system doesn't matter; that our economy doesn't matter. But we're here to say that we organize out of hope! We organize out of commitment! We organize out of love! We organize out of the beauty of our future! And we will not give up. We will not let go! We will not let cynicism to prevail!"
In Australia we've just essentially criminalised climate protesting. Climate protestors now risk a huge fine and even jail time. A lot of people suspect it's because governments are preparing in advance for what might become a huge movement that they can't control. So they're trying to disincentivise people before shit hits the fan.
That sounds about right. Sadly for them, no manner of law is going to stop the mobs when people start going hungry.
I went to a climate protest in Canada last week and it was way to tame to actually get anything accomplished.
The main part of the protest was walking down a main artery. For protesters, there is incentive to walk slowly and spread out to make the walk longer and disrupt status-quo longer, but the organizers clearly only had permission to march for a specific duration so they were in the back hurrying people forward so we'd stay within our allotted time window. Maybe 30 minutes. Once a year. It was pointless.
Add to that that 90% of the people there were exactly the people you'd expect to be there and it just felt like a waste of time.
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There is an exception to every rule, and one of my rules is that all politicians are money grubbing, ego-maniacs, who want nothing more than power. She might be the only exception to that rule.
I'd say Bernie is one of the exceptions. They are rare.
I think Katie Porter is also on this exception list.
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Meanwhile, here in the UK, Ministers consider rollback of green policy to try to win votes from those who really should not vote Tory.
Term based politics really make me struggle with democracy when it comes to this topic. No one is going to do jack shit if that means they lose votes, or half assed shit at best.
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Aren't you glad, the EU isn't there to regulate this kind of thing anymore? /s (do we use the sarcasm "/s" here as well or did we leave that at the old place?)
WE DO NOT USE THE /S
We use comprehension
She's right...
I'm not sure she realises how good conservatives, and the American public, are at ignoring things.
Bah that's exactly the kind of cynicism she was talking about
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Being concerned for the future of our species is radical apparently.
....and then she ate her microphone.
And it was cake.
...it was all cake!
She should be Americas VP, so she could take over for Brandon when he croaks. Probably the only way we'll ever get a female president.
I'm all for a female President...but I don't think AOC is it, at least not at this point in her career.
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