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I saw this article, which made me think about it...

Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes world-first laws


Seeing what kind of brainrot kids are watching, makes me think it's a good idea. I wouldn't say all content is bad, but most kids will get hooked on trash content that is intentionally designed to grab their attention.

What would be an effective way to enforce a restriction with the fewest possible side effects? And who should be the one enforcing that restriction in your opinion?

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

How? Make it a crime for every manager of the social media companies to let a child in.

fewest possible side effects?

No. That is not a goal when it is about child protection.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 weeks ago

Email is social media. Zoom is social media. Suicide hotlines are social media. Kids absolutely need social media. Communication is a human right. Taking away the right to communicate means isolating children from support. How's this supposed to go for depressed, neurodivergent, or queer kids. This law gives abusive parents more control over their victims.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I don't believe it's something for the government to enforce. Any law that requires a nongovernment agency to collect identification means that identification is at risk of being stollen and means it will be used to track the person. If every person using the internet will have to prove their age everywhere, it's going to be a mess.

Whatever company has the worst security will have all the IDs stollen and used everywhere else. And I'm sure at first, it will be used so that criminals can frame others for their online crimes really easily.

I mean how do you prove the person using the internet is the one in the ID over the internet. It's easy enough to just use the picture on the ID and some "AI" to produce a fake image if they're going to require taking a picture of who's using it or something like that. This won't stop any minors from accessing information they shouldn't. The only way to do that is through education to make them realize they don't want to access that information and then give them the tools to avoid it. Not try to keep it from them. That just makes them want it more and to have to become criminals to do it. And further, if they're committing that minor crime just to do something normal it desensitizes them to more serious crimes because they don't understand the reasoning for them. Which is why making minor stuff that doesn't affect anyone but the offender a crime is always a bad idea.

[–] MooseTheDog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Should anyone use social media as it exists today? Is it really social media anymore? Does that mask really cover all the horribleness

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What should it be called? Agreed that the vast majority of it is a dumpster fire of lies and brain rot, but what would you rename it?

[–] MooseTheDog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't see it getting better before it gets much worse. Exploitation is the closest legal term. This is something we have literally never seen before as a species. It's like naming a whole new animal or landmark - nothing to be done in haste. So much of the discussion is useless because it's been framed in the favor of our abusers. In almost every facet, from the server to your phone - it's just trying to suck every bit of labor it can to feed the cycle.

Yes, but leave them the SMSs

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, you can't really do it without parents.

But there could be a law that any phone tied to a number a minor possesses is locked down so it can't install the apps. It wouldn't stop web based, but apps seem to be a worse problem for various reasons.

It's not even so much the content that's the problem, it's the delivery mechanism, how it effects dopamine release, and how damaging those changes can be to a developing brain.

Its similar to the lootbox system that was regulated in various countries. Human brains will keep trying the next item in their feed because there's a chance something good shows up. If every post was good it would actually cause less addiction.

But a child has shit tier impulse control. They'll going to keep pulling the proverbial level forever, wading thru shit for the slightest dopamine hit. All the meanwhile still being influenced by what they scroll past.

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[–] stinky@redlemmy.com -2 points 2 weeks ago

I think kids should be aborted

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