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[–] riskable@programming.dev 56 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Give us a standalone VR headset that runs SteamOS and the world of VR will change overnight. Meta will instantly become a minor player!

Yeah, I'd probably buy that if it was reasonably priced (<$1k). I'm currently hesitating because the Valve Index is $1k, and I'd still need to upgrade my GPU.

Honestly, if they can release a non-standalone VR headset for <$500, I'll probably get it.

[–] commander@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That'll be nice. A lot of branding options there. Powered by SteamOS, that'll be nice for knowing that all the devices drivers have Linux support

Steam Included, easiest win for manufacturers. Steam Deck is pretty much an older generation AMD laptop. Slapping Steam Included should be viable for most new laptops these days

Steam Compatible, hardware shipped with approved controller inputs. I guess Android TV boxes shipped with a gamepad for Steam Link or GeForce Now

Steam Link Compatible, that's practically any computing device with a WiFi card or Ethernet these days. I guess anything that doesn't have a gamepad included

[–] SpaghettiYeti@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I made my own steam deck (ish) with steam link, a 6 year old used tablet, and a gamesir 8+ controller. In fact, it's better. But of course you need the hardware to stream that, but for at-home couch gaming while the wife is watching stuff, it's amazing. Portability is iffy because internet.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

With recent SteamOS release notes mentioning the ASUS ROG Ally, I think the writing's on the wall that we'll see a version of the Ally with SteamOS preinstalled soon.

[–] hellofriend@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Better than having Win on it. Anyway, it's a smart move. Cap more userbase in the high-end market while still providing a low-end option yourself.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Is this a Mandela effect thing or do I remember steamOS starting as a public distro?

[–] winety@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The old SteamOS from 2015 was indeed publicly available. It was to be used on the so-called »Steam Machines« and it was based on Debian.

The new SteamOS from 2022 is based on Arch, is made specifically for the Steam Deck and is not available publicly. Some similar distros exist.

[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

But every buyer could get the source code because of copyleft, right?

[–] winety@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, mostly. Some of the projects they use are licensed under non-copyleft licenses (e.g. dxvk is under zlib which isn't copyleft). Valve pushes many parts that constitute SteamOS into their own forks that then trickle into the mainline projects, e.g. Proton is opensource and changes to Proton's version of Wine are slowly introduced into mainline Wine. You could slap all these changes together and compile your own SteamOS, but Valve currently doesn't publish it as one nice package. There are projects like Bazzite that apply these changes to other distros (in this case Fedora).

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It existed for a while but was kinda pointless until games were able to run reliably enough on Linux.

Yes, but SteamOS 3.0 rebased from Debian to Arch Linux and made it specifically for Steam Deck hardware.

[–] driving_crooner 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There was already a linux based steamOS, even Alienware had some pre fabric pcs with SteamOS, but it didn't went far. Not sure if that steamOS and this one are the same

[–] passiveaggressivesonar@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Finally, an approachable arch distro

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Endeavoros is approachable.

[–] jonathan@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Using the domain name steampowered.com will finally make sense 20 years later.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It still reminds me of how it took me about a decade to finally realise the connection between steam (as a gaseous substance), Steam (the platform), valve (as in that rotating thing to release pressure) Valve (the corporation), steampowered (the domain name) and steam-powered (as in a steam engine).

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The logo of steam is the crankshaft of a steam engine

The old steam consoles were called "steam machines" with the "piston" being one of them

The distribution system is called "steam pipe"

I'm sure I've forgotten some of their puns

Edit: Ah. There's also "Steam Cloud" of course

[–] RedIce25@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wishing SteamOS 3.0 releases before Windows 10 end of life in October 2025.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are still some games that won't work, mostly those with really invasive anti-cheat

[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago

Fortunately, those games aren't worth playing unless you are already addicted to them.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is great news!

What's the biggest benefit of linux fof handheld devices? Less cumbersome for the developers and practically perpetual security updates? Asking because there are ones that run on Windows.

[–] dodos@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

That, and it's easier to make a unified experience. Windows handhelds are notoriously difficult to use due to ui issues. I believe windows handelds tend to have a designated launcher designed for the device input, but it can't integrate well since you are still stuck with explorer.exe

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 6 points 2 weeks ago

I'm excited for this because I want a pocket sized device that runs just the lightweight fraction of my Steam Library.

Or literally just Rogue Legacy 2 and Monster Train would be fine, actually.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Didn't they already announce this quite awhile ago? I know they said the ROG and LegionGo were getting it. I think some other smaller brand released one already as well. I'll have to find it.

This one: https://www.dexerto.com/tech/ayaneo-next-lite-revealed-it-uses-one-of-the-steam-decks-best-features-2468869/

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Is SteamVR tracking 2.0 the current version for the index?

[–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Yes. It uses basestation 2.0s which use slightly different technology than basestation 1.0. Basestation 2.0 devices like index, vive trackers and tundra trackers have backwards compatability with the 1.0 basestations but you cant use og vive and other 1.0 devices with basestation 2.0