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Also asked them if torrenting legal stuff is allowed and they said no.

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[–] ugh@lemm.ee 150 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's an issue with your VPN.

[–] sum_yung_gai@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What VPN service do you use?

[–] db2@lemmy.one 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It probably isn't which one that's the problem, it's more likely your setup.

If you can, try disabling IPv6 entirely, turn it off in your operating system and your router. I'd bet you're leaking past the VPN that way.

[–] dragonfly4933@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wouldn't advise turning off ipv6. We are probably getting near the point where some public services will disable or offer v4 as only best effort, and when this happens, your connectivity will be broken for certain things if you disable v6. Heck, it's to the point now where all my home hosted services are v6 only.

The better solution is to just get a VPN that supports ipv6 like airvpn or mullvad. I think pia disables ipv6 while the tunnel is up, which is better than disabling ipv6 altogether.

To validate the tunnel is working properly you can use something like this.

https://ipleak.net/

There is also a Torrent Address detection section, that when you activate it, will provide a magnet link that will show your ip to ensure that it is tunneled properly.

[–] brimnac@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude, it’ll be a longer time than this guy is going to be on his ISP before he’ll need to worry about ipv6.

OP - feel free to disable it, IMO.

[–] rickdgray@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Seriously; they've been talking about v6 for like 3 decades now. I'll believe it when I see it.

Many ISPs are no longer handing out even 1 public ipv4 address per account, and instead opting for CGnat which further breaks and stratifies the internet.

Tmobile for example is 464xlat which is even worse than cgnat since it requires tampering with dns responses.

Given the situation many ISP are in, most serious companies offering services on the internet have supported ipv6 for a long time now in order to offer the most competitive service possible. And with cloudflare now serving up a large amount of traffic, a lot of all traffic is v6.

Believe it or not, but IPv6 is here and gaining ground.

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[–] npmstart_pray@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

WireGuard is increasingly popular as far as I can tell. And if I understand correctly, designed more for IPv6.

[–] Crator@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I actually had to disable ipv6 just because Halo Infinite wouldn't load the UI. A couple websites were unreachable with it on too. Seems like it will still be awhile.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just noticed I have ipv6 disabled in Mullvad. It has caused me no issues. Should I enable it?

If you want to, then sure. For torrenting, it's not necessary, but may be helpful. I do occasionally see ipv6 peers.

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[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you are on VPN they cannot know shit. Only that you use a VPN... So either they are detecting the VPN and lying about what they know or you fucked up setting the VPN and the torrentina doesn't go through the VPN.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

There are plenty of VPN that leak data.

[–] cccc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’ll still see upload/download volumes, speeds and patterns. Just not destinations. That alone could indicate torrent.

[–] whatsarefoogee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That could indicate a lot of things. It would be very difficult to distinguish a torrent from something like cloud folder sync. And that would still be a statistical guess. No ISP is going to go after customers because their VPN traffic is potentially torrent traffic.

Besides, even if they could detect that torrenting is taking place, they will not know what data is being transferred from and to where. It's a meme, but torrents are actually sometimes used for non-copyright infringing data.

[–] dtxer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I was providing Linux distros and Machine Learning datasets some time ago, because official servers where slow. I'm the meme I guess

[–] DemSpud@lemmy.fmhy.ml 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You also need to force your torrent client to use the VPN network adaptor. You can do this in qBitorrent advanced settings

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where do I find this setting on Deluge?

[–] bakkerthehacker@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Using the ltConfig plugin, there is a force_proxy option

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[–] Mikelius@beehaw.org 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Dunno if anyone mentioned it, but if I had to guess, you have a DNS leak. Basically your DNS requests are going through your ISP instead of the VPN, resulting in them knowing where you're going online anyway. Be sure to check for those DNS leaks and setup a custom one if your VPN doesn't offer one. Don't forget, DNS traffic over port 53 is also unencrypted, so unless you force those through the VPN, they could still know where you're going.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 5 points 1 year ago

I had a similar problem where my ipv4 traffic went through the VPN, but for ipv6 it was straight to clearnet

[–] aman25ta@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're on qbit, did you bind your vpn to qbit?

Also your vpn might just be bad, what do you use?

[–] Breno@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Do you mind explaining or pointing to resource about binding to qbit? I use qbit and pia.

[–] aman25ta@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Start the VPN and connect to a location. Open qBittorrent. Go to Preferences, and then Advanced tab. Change Network interface to the VPN (usually its name, like "Mullvad"). Restart qBittorrent.

Basically when you bind it, if your vpn ever happens to turn off or leak etc its gonna stop the download/upload

[–] Breno@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Awesome, thank you.

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[–] sum_yung_gai@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I did not but it was a system wide VPN.

[–] henrikx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

You should always bind it directly in qb to prevent it from accidentally leaking

[–] aman25ta@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Start the VPN and connect to a location. Open qBittorrent. Go to Preferences, and then Advanced tab. Change Network interface to the VPN (usually its name, like "Mullvad"). Restart qBittorrent.

Basically when you bind it, if your vpn ever happens to turn off etc its gonna stop the download/upload

[–] Brochetudo@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago

So you're effectively blocked from installing some Linux distros? What the fuck

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

Try Usenet instead. Or get a seedbox and let that do the torrenting for you. Either you have a DNS leak with your VPN, or they're just guessing your torrenting because of how much traffic you're using all the time. The DNS leak is more likely.

[–] Fleecer74@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

Make sure you have killswitch on your vpn on

[–] Dioxy@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

What, they don’t allow torrenting legal stuff? So you can’t download Windows 11 as a torrent from Microsoft? Sounds like a sassy ISP.

[–] updawg@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I torrent on a seedbox and then download to my local machine with rsync. ISP shouldn't care about an ssh connection.

[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you use a seed box service or how does it work?

[–] updawg@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use ultra seedbox, but there are plenty of other companies you can buy from

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[–] derpgon@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

You basically have a remote server, usually a cloud or bare metal, where you do all your torrenting. It's fairly easy, as there are plenty of clients with web UI like Transmission that can be setup super easily via Docker. Make sure to protect it somehow though. Or use a torrent CLI tool and do everything via SSH.

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[–] null@zerobytes.monster 9 points 1 year ago

probably your real non VPN IP leaked

[–] Melody@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It would be helpful if we knew what VPN provider you are using.

Please note: if your VPN provider costs you nothing; you are the product and you are absolutely using the wrong VPN! It is expected that you use a reputable, No Logs, Torrent-Friendly Paid VPN for best "torrenting-compatible" privacy results. These can run anywhere from $5 to $75 USD depending on what payment term and plan you run.

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[–] rustic_tiddles@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My gf got several letters and I started using a VPN. Easy peasy. No problems.

Now I've moved to seedboxes (seedhost.eu) and private trackers. First I buy an invite to a private tracker (if you spend like $20 you can get an invite to one of the less prestigious ones and like 500gb of quota). This is kind of a process since private trackers are 1000% against selling invites so it's kind of a "marketplace" forum type deal. Not a 1 min paypal transaction. Took me a couple days to get my first invite.

Then use that tracker on the seedbox which has a few tb disc. Then I sftp in (I have used the app Forklift for many years and highly recommend if you're on a Mac, it's amazing) and transfer down.

I get like 7 MB/s through VPN which is alright for me and even without a VPN, it's just random traffic coming from a server. You aren't torrenting from your machine so there's no issue.

To get quota on the trackers, you can either buy an invite that includes some quota or build it up yourself. The seedboxes I use have like 100 MB/s upload speed so you'd just download some super popular (freeleach if possible) torrents and then seed for a while. If your invite comes with some quota, likely you'll have more quota than you know what to do with. I bought an invite with a 100gb quota and now I have like 4tb of quota.

The downside is cost which might defeat the point of pricy for some. I pay like $6 a month for my instance. But if you're willing to pay for a more powerful instance you can run Plex directly and stream everything if you wanted. I download locally and put it on my local Plex server.

[–] m12lrpv@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

private trackers are 1000% against selling invites

Unless it's one of the the trackers where the owners themselves are doing the selling via their seedbox sales

Users selling invites would undercut them.

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[–] sum_yung_gai@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This sounds really promising! Is it unsafe to sftp download from the seedbox without VPN?

[–] Lord_Mac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I use Syncthing with my Seedbox and use a VPN on my Debian VM running syncthing, then share the folder im syncing over smb on my local network. (I Use FeralHosting) This is just one of many ways to do it.

SFTP is fine but is like having a helmet on while racing but not using a seat belt.

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[–] luke@harfang.social 3 points 1 year ago

Newshosting ?

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hahahaha.

Call them again and ask the same question. Record their answer. Then keep on torrenting legal stuff.

If they're dumb enough to come after you for something that is patently false, enjoy getting your retirement paid for by your ISP.

[–] CornDog@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 1 year ago

I don't think that's how it works; you don't just somehow get money because your ISP is being stupid. Maybe if, through years of expensive legal battles, you could demonstrate some damages and get a favorable ruling, but not because you have a recording of some incompetent customer service rep saying "don't torrent".

Also, be careful about taking advice about recording people from random people on the internet. A responsible person should tell you that different states have different laws around potentially requiring you to inform other parties that you're recording them. You'd feel pretty silly suing your ISP based on a recording that was actually illegally created.

[–] sum_yung_gai@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I have a raspberry pi. Does anyone have a good guide on setting up a raspberry pi for secure torrenting from my home?

[–] JohnSwanFromTheLough@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cheeky fuckers telling you no bittorrent at all is allowed. They're banning protocols now...

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[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Seedbox.

Make sure your torrent client is using your VPN adapter

[–] naneek@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Depending on what you’re downloading (media - TV, movies, music) usenet could be the better approach.

If you are acquiring that type of content, look into the *arr services and setup guides.

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