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So I own a Lenovo legion 5i laptop and I installed a brand new mushkin Vortex 2tb NVME SSD last year. But it has gone into read only about 30 times since I got it but smart reports 0 errors. I reboot my machine and boom fixed it it takes place in windows and in Linux often in the middle of my work so I can't save again. I did like to fix this issue but don't know what to do as there are no errors.

The drive is gpt and has multiple partitions of which my NTFS partition has the most problems as it sometimes requires a reboot of windows even when it worked before in Linux. But my swap and ext4 partitions also fail. In total there are 6 partitions 1 large NTFS partition, 2 large ext4, a swap partition and a bios and fat partition for tripple boot. My OS's are up to date and are windows 11, pop_os and Gentoo. My other samsung drive never has this issue. But my laptop has had a motherboard replacement and a ram replacement since I got it last year.

I hope you can guide me in the right direction. Thank you for at least reading this.

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[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SSD data going read-only is a telltale sign it’s failing. The good thing is that the data is still accessible, unlike HDDs, but start backing up ASAP.

[–] plotting_homelab@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought that would be it so backup every week currently but there are no smart errors. So it can't be failing correct?

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it’s a shit drive it ain’t gonna do S.M.A.R.T. properly. I could be wrong though, but why risk it?

[–] plotting_homelab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh would there be any way to get proper Info as I want to send it back for a replacement or money back but need proof it is failing for that and as it occurs about once a week currently it's not 100% of the time

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

None of that is normal on a healthy drive. If you have not, please make backups of your data ASAP.

[–] plotting_homelab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have done that already every week I make a backup because I don't thrust it. But it won't show errors so the shop I bought it from won't accept it as a return

[–] jasep@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • Take it back to the shop
  • Ask them to save a file on the desktop
  • Reboot
  • Ask them to access said file
  • File missing, drive faulty, demand replacement

Beyond that if they still won't honor the warranty, you'll probably have to pony up to buy a new SSD

[–] plotting_homelab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The problem is that it won't always do it just occasionally but I will probably try contacting mushkin to maybe get them to replace it

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You might try CrystalDiskInfo. I know nothing about it, but there are several forum posts elsewhere that suggest it.

Example: https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/ssd-locked-at-read-only.3635022/

Edit: on second thought, just contact the vendor and run the diagnostics they all you to.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Check dmesg for errors, not smart.

[–] plotting_homelab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

O that is a good one maybe there might be more didn't think of that thx

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

If your filesystem is going read only, that's your filesystem doing it and not the disk itself. You may just have a corrupt FS that can be solved with a repair, rather than a failing drive.

Or maybe you have a failing drive, in which case IO errors in dmesg will confirm that you need to replace it.

[–] wwtw@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] otherbarry@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That ancient tool isn't for SSDs. But if you want OP's SSD to die quicker it's a good suggestion :P

[–] wwtw@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What makes you say Spinrite isn’t compatible with an SSD? It is actively developed with version 6.1 due out any day bringing additional SSD support.

OP’s SSD is under 2.2 TB and OP is only looking for diagnostic information only. Spinrite will probably give more details than necessary.

https://forums.grc.com/threads/does-spinrite-6-0-support-ssd-solid-state-drives.927/

SSD's suffer from different, but closely related, troubles due to their having so much data crammed into such a small space.

[–] plotting_homelab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It looks like that is for data recovery but I haven't lost data it's just an annoying thing to save it on my other drive and then reboot and save to the original drive

[–] wwtw@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Spinrite was originally just a diagnostic tool. It will probably give you more details than necessary or you know what to do with.

The problem with SSD’s and diagnostics is SSD’s have a controller preforming all kinds of wizardry and witchcraft between the flash memory and the motherboard. This is because drive makers are cramming more and more into the same space.

In all likelihood your drive is failing or your motherboard is. You can’t do anything about it except replace the failed component. Diagnostic tools might help identify the problem, and might not help at all. Tools like Spinrite rely on the drive controller to tell the truth. If it’s lying, fudging, or broken you’re SOL.