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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago

You would think they would have learned something from the backlash this caused last time.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Isn't it time to step up to these bullies? Iran, NK, Russia and China.

Human life is more worth than some dictators ego.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 19 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Most countries don't actually care. These countries are valuable to them in resources and power, and will keep funding them. Even beacons of "democracy" will fund terrorists and human rights abusers, so long as the oil and power keeps flowing in their pockets, such as France and the RSF, the US and most countries to the Gulf states + Israel, and more.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

the US and most countries to the Gulf states + Israel, and more.

I know you said "and more" but that list should probably include ISIS.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep, but nowadays, ISIS is a shadow of its former self. (plus, i forgot that they exist. haven't heard of them in years except when the massacre in russia occurred) and besides, saudi arabia has done more to benefit ISIS than the west.

There are more immediate threats in the MENA, such the sudanese civil war, the gulf's human rights abuses/absolute dictatorships, the palestinian genocide, iran, libya/iraq's failed states, egypts police state, the future of syria, turkeys hatred of kurds, so on and so forth...

Boy, we just can't catch a break here.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Sudan and Yemen are powder kegs and they are mostly being ignored, which is quite worrisome.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

It's heartbreaking seeing what goes on in Sudan and Yemen and how it is ignored. Even worse is how the UAE funds the RSF and my own country, SA is committing war crimes in Yemen. But the "civilized west" doesn't give a shit, as long as the oil is flowing.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The US has been funding Saudi war crimes in Yemen for some time, for those who are unaware. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Saudi_Arabian%E2%80%93led_operations_in_Yemen

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Stand up to them... How exactly?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

Maybe write a strongly worded post on social media or something ?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

We can become energy independent, give all the weapons Ukraine needs, go after Russias cyber warfare, and more.

Edit: Angry downvoters lol

[–] PapstJL4U@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

When the voters don't want to pay the costs, it's not possible to make change.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

We don't buy energy from Iran or NK (or China as far as I know).

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago

No but from russia, and they support Iran & NK.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Fair enough but that stuff only affects Russia. It doesn't affect Iran and it definitely doesn't affect China.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

Yes, China is the hardest part, if we just stop having economic relations with them, then we have way less soft power for example. We should help Taiwan for example.

Russia though, is propping up Iran (or did so) and NK, so affecting russia affects Iran, NK not so much.

But standing strong together is s first step, and sanktion where it can be done too.

[–] TruckFonaldDump@lemm.ee -4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yes now is the time especially wrt Iran and ruzzia. Irans proxies are significantly weakened in Syria and Lebanon. Russia also lost influence in Syria now that the freedom-loving people of Syria have risen up. Russia is also losing in Ukraine.

Either these countries buck up and accept the Rules Based Order or pay the consequences.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What rules-based order? Gestures vaguely at the Middle East. Also you're forgetting that all these countries are bankrolled by China so while they're weakened they still have a strong backer who's not going anywhere anytime soon.