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being insane and loving drama is when you demand respect for people's identities apparently :p
that's literally the only "drama" Ive seen here ever from blahaj users except for usa political discussions which I mostly ignore, I know lots of pretty crazy queer spaces that r genuinely like that while this is one of the most chill corners of the internet Ive been to
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The person you're referring to has literally been banned from this community by the community mods. Wind your identity gatekeeping back, because you don't need to invalidate someones identity to moderate them
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you talk an awful lot about how terrible it is to be here, you even started the discussion by musing about blocking this instance, and yet after two days you're still here whining without an ounce of self-reflection and taking anything anyone says back to you as personally as you can manage. shit or get off the pot.
Your identity doesn't shield you from being a bigot though, or from twisting yourself in terflike knots to justify misgendering others.
It's very strange how many professed nonbinary, fluid, and agender people suddenly have an issue with gatekeeping what gender is or isn't and whose is worth acknowledging based on arbitrary criteria and narratives about personal virtue.
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this is ironically by far the most unhinged and least self-aware screed i've read in this community over the past several days. you gonna challenge me to fight you irl too?
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"directionless wad of animosity crying victim and living for dramatic horseshit just to make other people feel lesser" seems more appropriate but sure you can choose the "violent transphobic bigot" label if you prefer. unlike some other people i'm not in a hurry to decide whose identity is and isn't valid based on how shitty i think they act, or color a person's entire existence a certain way based on a handful of internet comments.
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bruh you've been mad phobic the entire time you've been concern trolling here, and it's painfully obvious because every single time you preface it with "trans people aren't [bad quality]... but you are" as if to admonish us for not being "the good ones". truth told at this point i'm mostly just seeing how much reportable shit i can get you to say because it's clear you just came here to stir the pot.
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you came to the post i made, days after the fact. most of the replies are you throwing a shitfit and getting indignant because there are rules.
to quote the only queer person you seem to respect, "get a fucking grip, and quit alienating any and every person you don’t agree with, based on shit you just make up, and decide they’ve done."
Anyone "pretty much defederating" wasn't an ally anyhow. Lots of "I respected the transes until they said I couldn't pick and choose which are the 'good ones' for their space". They didn't participate before so nothing will likely change.
The whole argument doesn't even make sense. Whether or not the two individuals in question are trolls has no bearing on the situation. It DID give bigots, trolls, and perpetually online rabble rousers a very flimsy excuse to start shit and start shit they did.
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It seems like every response to this, including yours, has been a bad faith, purposeful misconception of what is being expressed.
I can already tell discussing anything with you is a waste of time.
cool, there's the door. don't let it hit your ass.
Queer spaces don't need to validate trolls to be inclusive
who gets to decide who's avowed gender is "trolling"? what's the potential harm there? "oh no i called a person on the internet by pronouns they asked for but don't use irl, oh noez i have been owned".
versus handing phobes a pretense to misgender anyone they please, which honestly feels like the point of all this.
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not picking and choosing whose identity is valid is the backbone of this movement, fuck outta here trying to sandbag the most marginalized among us by trying to associate queerness with pedophilia.
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your other account is banned from here for trolling. does that make it acceptable to misgender you and add "and also pedophiles" whenever i refer to you or your identity?
Where is this supposed pedophile apologia? Is this person insane?
it's a troll, the pedophilia accusations are a red herring to make the target (me) defensive. nobody had anything to say about the topic until this person decided to start adding "and [euphamism for pedophiles]" when referring to xenogenders.
That's what I figured. What a weirdo. When you have to make things up to make your point, you're just loudly announcing that you have no point.
the point is to by repetition associate marginalized groups with indefensible harm to children, in order to sow fear and mistrust and drive the wedge deeper into this community. either that or they're really unhinged and need to seek help.
It doesn't matter if they're trolls or not. In this instance, you respect the communication preferences of everyone present. If you find someone's behaviour to be problematic, you block them and/or report them to the mods. It doesn't give you or others a free pass to treat them as less deserving of respect than anyone else here.
If that's an issue, feel free to leave.
it's a very simple concept, and it's both hilarious and depressing how apparently divisive it is. fun how many "allies" and fellow queers are in a rush to play the "hysterical trans person" card and pretend we're talking nonsense.
What blows my mind is they're repeating the cycle of oppression.
Cishet dominant society arbitrated what was "okay" for gender/sexual preference and we all had to claw our way into some measure of acceptance. Now ostensibly LGBTQ+ members are pulling a "fuck you, got mine" and drumming up excuses to exclude the outgroup that makes them feel icky. Just like always, the focus is on the outliers: supposed pedos, very unconventional pronouns, furries, etc. It's giving me flashbacks.
if you keep them talking eventually they'll admit their motives in the form of an accusation, like that other person who was ranting for paragraphs about various queer people getting off on feeling superior, while calling people insane for respecting identities that person feels are beneath respect.
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hi, i'm one of those trans people, and i've been through absolute hell, physically, mentally, spiritually, and emotionally. don't hide your bigoted shit-tier take behind my struggle.
It doesn't matter if they are a troll, respect them.
Yeah people don't want to do that
Nice strawman there. What I actually said was:
It doesn't matter if they're trolls or not. In this instance, you respect the communication preferences of everyone present. If you find someone's behaviour to be problematic, you block them and/or report them to the mods. It doesn't give you or others a free pass to treat them as less deserving of respect than anyone else here.
If you have an issue with someone's behavior, block and report them. Their bad behavior doesn't magically give you a free pass to do whatever you want without repercussions.
I don't know why this is like high level calculus for some people.