I dont get why anyone would use LineageOS on a phone that new and that well supported by custom roms (GraphineOS, /e/os, etc)
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True But maybe might be helpful if the phone hits EOL?
At that point using it will be less secure, the reason why GraphineOS stops supporting devices is because they focus on security. In addition the Pixel 9 will be EOL in what eight years from now? Maybe even more
Eight years, minus the few years you'd have to wait until the phone is close to affordable. And updates via LineageOS is still way better than just using a phone with no updates when it hits EOL like you normally would.
Calling the pixel 9 unaffordable when it's literally the cheapest flagship in the market.
"Flagship" is doing a lot of work here. Most people here use cheap phones. My Pixel 7 was already $300, which is a bit hard to swallow, and it was not the newest model at the moment. Pixel 9 in the same place is close to $1k now, which is completely out of reach for a lot of people including me. That is frankly an insane sum to spend on a phone.
I like lineageOS more, because GrapheneOS includes google play, even while sandboxed i don't like that
By default no, you install it later (as a sandboxed app)
yeah but i like microG and i read it isnt supported
How safe is Lineage?
Their devs dont really care about security so id say its not safe at all.
Any source on this?
Lineage allows people to have newer android/security patches on end-of-life phones, that's a pretty good security argument.
That first link talks about how it requires an unlocked bootloader, therefore verified boot is disabled and the device is less secure.
While that is true, I think that's a bit of an unfair thing to hold against it considering on most Android phones, you need to unlock the bootloader to run anything the OEM doesn't approve, and most vendors do not support installing your own keys.
That should be a criticism against the OEM for forcing you to weaken the security of the device to have full control over it, not Lineage. That is not really their fault.
I think it would be nice of them to mention that the signing keys being held by the OEM and the OEM only is a massive security (and freedom!) weakness on it's own, and that without being able to sign everything yourself, you can't really be certain of the security of your device, as you cannot control everything on it.
GrapheneOS
how safe is google?
Anyone using Lineage? How is it?
I’ve got a Pixel 7 and have been wondering
It's annoying to upgrade between whole number android versions.
I used it extensively ony Samsung Galaxy S4 until Android 9 or 11. Was very good (model jflte(xx))
Upgrading android versions did a surprise factory reset for me. Never used it again after that.
Custom Roms are only viable if official android support has dropped and you are no longer getting upgrades.
Not really. Stock OSes are really bad in terms of privacy, maybe with a few exceptions - I wouldn't be able to trust them with any personal info. Just like Windows. So a custom one is a must.
To be honest I do not see any reason to use Lineage with Pixel while there is GrapheneOS... But maybe there will be some users of it: it is always better to have more free open OS
The only use case i guess if you prefer microG implementation v sandboxed GPS.
I think GOS model will end up being proven right from security/privacy perspective but the debate is ongoing.
GOS chief should not be in any public facing communication position though... that weaponized autism with heavy dose of paranoia is what is needed to develop GOS but not a good look objectively, and I give people a lot benefit of doubt.
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