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submitted 1 year ago by simple@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

Here's hoping they migrate to wiki.gg as Terraria's contributors have a while ago.

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[-] Kovu@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

please, fandom is one of the worst sites on the internet

[-] subtext@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

When the old school RuneScape wiki moved to a self hosted solution it was night and day the quality difference. I’d argue that OSRS (and probably regular RS) have some of the best wikis in gaming.

https://osrs.wiki

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The four horsemen of the video game Google search apocalypse are Fandom, IGN, Polygon, and GameRant

[-] OptimalAutomation@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Fr. Recently the Satisfactory wiki moved off of fandom and it is already so much better. More wikis need to drop fandom.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

But somehow fextralife is even worse.

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[-] Vipsu@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Just whatever you do, do not use Google docs to share information that belongs to a wiki. That's is by far the most annoying option and 100 times worse than just having to deal with a fandom wiki.

[-] NotYourSocialWorker@feddit.nu 8 points 1 year ago

I agree, it'll also make a mess out of your "shared tab" on your drive. Me opening a document from som random doesn't mean that I want it to bury the documents that has been actively shared with me, from my wife for instance.

[-] NthLink@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Fandom has been a pretty terrible experience for awhile now. I hope they find a better home.

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[-] WarpScanner@lemmy.fmhy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Good, Fandom's wiki's are garbage.

[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago
[-] NotYourSocialWorker@feddit.nu 13 points 1 year ago

Exactly this.

When a company can't expand its market share anymore they will make the product cheaper, worse and more expensive.

For tech this means filling the product with bloat, upping the prices for consumers, and lowering their payouts to creators (subcontractors).

[-] crossal@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

What's wrong with Spotify?

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[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

Looks like the add-supported-free-stuff business model really is collapsing.

I'm pleased to hear that they're moving. Fandom's had a monopoly on the community-created wiki space for far too long, and it's had a dire effect on the usability of so many wikis. It's like they're trying to make their site everything but a easily usable resource for community wikis.

On a related note, I highly recommend the "Indie Wiki Buddy" extension for Chrome and Firefox. When non-Fandom/Fextralife wikis are available, it'll direct you to those instead; and when they're not, it'll allow you to view the Fandom wiki through a much more usable mirror.

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[-] elbowdrop@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Going to Fandom is like visiting a annoying dying person because they hold the hidden information.

[-] Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

The old Minecraft Wiki was so great. I was pissed when I heard they got bought by Fandom...

[-] filister@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Fandom is so utterly annoying with those unrelated videos. Really annoying website.

[-] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I'm an editor for a community wiki that moved off fandom a few years ago to Mireheze. When the recent discussion about Miraheze shutting down happened I briefly inquired about where we would migrate to, expressing my hope to not return to fandom, and was quite thouroghly assured that fandom is not somewhere that would even be considered returning to. I don't think I've had a single positive experience on a fandom wiki ever, or at least not in over 8 years, with issues ranging from intrusive ads, to the comment section pop in making scrolling inconsistent, to even something as simple as it universally looking fucking ugly, I can't wait for people to leave and am actively cheering on its slow death as a website.

[-] Photographer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Stardew Valley did the right thing by self hosting a wiki, makes it both official and independent

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

fandom wikis half the time are trash and redundant

[-] TastyWheat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Fandom wikis are such bloated trash that I will always look elsewhere for info.

[-] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Fandom is a huge headache to even navigate, I couldn't imagine what it’s like to maintain it

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

"But ever since the acquisition contributors and editors have been uneasy about Fandom's big money owners applying the nipple clamps and, ..."

The article is worth reading just for that paragraph, if nothing else.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

"There is also deep disquiet among wiki editors over a recent controversy with the McDonalds wiki, in which Fandom replaced the existing Grimace page to a paid-for McDonalds advertorial, without the consent or knowledge of the McDonalds wiki editors. No I'm not making this up."

Then again, this one came in in a close second.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

"42 Minecraft wiki contributors and editors have voted to tell Fandom to fork off"

And this comes in at number three.

[-] yaycupcake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago

I am an admin on another wiki that used to be on Gamepedia before the Fandom buyout. We forked immediately. I have also been self hosting a wiki for another game since early 2017. Completely worth it. Fandom has always had terrible user experience, and frankly they do not care about their users at all. Maybe their community-level staff do, but definitely not the higher ups. I've chatted with them directly when we were planning to fork. They're only in it for the money, not for the good of the editors or readers. They make ridiculous changes that are great for advertisers but completely subvert the user experience and actual content on the page. They've also let go a lot of their staff for nonsensical reasons. I really hope the Minecraft wiki goes through with the fork, and that more and more wikis follow. It's absurd how much of a monopoly they have, given how awful their service is. I for one will be happy to visit the Minecraft wiki again, as someone who plays occasionally, but not often enough to be keeping tabs on all the new features and updates. But I boycott Fandom wikis on principle so I haven't been there in years.

[-] Silviecat44@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

A lot of people are moving to wiki.gg l. It has so many more features

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[-] JonVonBasslake@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I hope the Fallout and Final Fantasy wikies also migrate out from fandom. Back when they were wikia, they were a lot better. It feels that the search function on fandom is so bad that half the time you're better off going on google and slapping your search there instead.

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[-] gendulf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Runescape's fandom wiki has long been abandoned, and the SEO makes it horrible to constantly have to scroll passed it when looking for the official wiki results. I would vote that they get a time machine and never use Fandom in the first place. Barring that, I'm torn between my sticking with Fandom until it gets worse, and just cauterizing the wound and switching to wiki.gg now. wiki.gg has by far the least-intrusive ads (which I only really see on my phone when I somehow get shunted into Chrome).

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Lol, they moved out from Reddit and now they moved out from Fandom.

But their solution could be as simple as make their own wiki.

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Imagine if we already had all the tools needed, and all that's missing is a bit of hosting and a bit of moderation. If only there was a company with some extra cash behind this… haha.

But it's seriously time people retake some kind of control over their online activity. All these "services" looking at every occasion to screw their user is getting annoying.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah I think people need to separate "popular" from "profitable" in their minds because while I do spend a lot of time on the internet, most of it isn't for anything I'd be willing to pay for, and if it's just an excuse to show me ads, I'm not interested.

We see the shit you're doing, we don't like it, and while it might boost some numbers in the short term, it also primes users for the next alternative that won't just be embraced because it's new and shiny, but specifically because it's not the site that used to be great but thought they could abuse their users' time and attention for greater profits.

Like at this point, Reddit could do a full 180 and allow 3rd party apps to return, improve their own UX through their site and official apps, and give up on the IPO entirely, but I still won't be likely to return because all of that just sounds too good to be true and I like it better here than Reddit has been for years.

I don't really want to be someone's product anymore. And if that breaks the whole Internet's business model, then so be it.

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[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The RuneScape wikis did this several years ago, might even be a decade at this point. The actual developer studio, Jagex, helps pay to keep them online and independent because of how damn good they are and how useful it is for everyone, including developers, to reference.

Microsoft (or Mojang? I don't know anymore) would be well served to do the same here honestly.

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[-] ATDA@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Fandom is so bad I just blocked the domain. Chatgpt gives me info quicker and more precisely on older titles anyway.

[-] saruhiko@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

Is there such a thing as a Fedewiki? We can call it Craig.

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[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Fandom is barely usable at this point. I feel like they're just relying on no one wanting to put in the effort of coordinating a migration elsewhere.

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[-] lp0101@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Path of Exile did the same thing, going from fandom to https://poewiki.net. And thank god they did, fuck fandom

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[-] NatoBoram@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

uBlock Origin makes it way better, but still, you shouldn't have to use that in the first place

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Fandom has always been massive garbage, thank goodness

[-] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

As a matter of fact, there are opportunities here for other companies that don't have general wikis for gamers to create a better hosting service. They have not done this and I don't understand why. Steam could easily do this, I think. Just imagine Steam creating a wiki for games, with links to the best guides, etc. It would be a modern version of GameFaqs (which still exists) but improved. When I do a search on a game and I get Fandom in my results, I tend to skip over it and look for something better without ad bullshit. I would think that other gamers tend to do the same thing. I mean, it's that bad, even for a user without a registered account (like me).

[-] xaon_rider92@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I really hope that they do, Fandom is annoying as heck to use with the constant advertising and unnecessary sidebar that pops up a big window on mouseover etc. In fact, I hope all fandom wikis leave Fandom and migrate elsewhere.

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