I'd buy this in an instant if they would have included a headphone jack. What an idiotic design choice to make especially on a device like this
this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2023
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Just to clarify, this is about the 2019 model Fairphone 3, which does have a headphone jack.
The Fairphone 3 still had one.
Honestly, the headphone jack days are gone and there's not a lot we can do about it.
And honestly? Wireless Bluetooth headphones/earbuds are good enough now that I don't see a need for wired ones though so I don't see what the issue ism
I hate the fact that so many manufacturers removed it that I refuse to buy a device like that purely out of principle.
My current device has a user removable battery aswell and seems like EU is going to make it mandatory for new devices so my next device will probably have it too. I can imagine someone saying the same thing about removable battery that you're now saying about the headphone jack. Time will tell.
I'm glad that it works for you. Doesn't work for everyone, unfortunately. There are still a few brands out there that release new phones with the jack. Supporting them demonstrates that there's still a market out there. I find Bluetooth buds, even the great ones, a frustrating enough experience that I don't want to rely on ONLY that for music listening.
Same thing with small phones; there aren't many out there, but I show my support where I can. I may not be the majority but I think the jack is a large enough "niche" that it will absolutely be out there for a long time. In fact I suspect as people get tired of the $200/year (for good bluetooth buds) hamster wheel the jack will actually increase in popularity. But it takes time for all of those bluetooth buds to break down on people, and for people to decide that enough is enough.
Fair enough. I've only ever bought one pair of wireless earbuds though that I got around 3-4 years ago so I didn't realize it was common to have to buy new ones frequently.
I use my headphones on multiple devices. Pairing them every time I want to switch is a pain in the ass. Also, my current headphones are still good and will hopefully last for a very long time, as I specifically went after headphones that are study, easy to maintain, and repair. So I have no need for Bluetooth headphones, and I have no desire for Bluetooth headphones. I just want a jack to plug in.
What headphones are they? Can they not just pair to multiple devices? I have mine hooked up to my two laptops and my phone, and they just automatically connect to whatever one I'm using (unless I'm using both in which case I just have to toggle it on the second device if I want).
Sorry, to be clear, they're not Bluetooth. I've got a set of Meze 99 Neos. I've got my desktop, laptop, phone, and Steam Deck that I use them on regularly. I've had Bluetooth headphones in the past and I've never had one that can pair to 4 things, not to mention trying to get it to connect to the right one when more than one has power is annoying.
These ones are also sturdy, easy to repair, and use a standard 2.5mm to 3.5mm connection. There's no battery to wear out and no electronics of any kind to fail. So long as I don't physically break them, I expect them to keep working for many years to come. There's no wireless headphones I'm aware of and certainly no wireless earbuds that I can say that about. I have no interest in buying devices designed to be consumed and discarded past a certain date.
7 years. Wtf!!!
The company actually skipped Android 12 to deliver Android 13 due to all that "build the BSP yourself" work. Monthly security updates probably don't arrive all that regularly either.
This might be a dealbreaker for many people.
Yep. 7 years of updates is not worth a lot functionally if the updates are months or years behind. Almost as bad as them not getting them to begin with.
I hope they bring the Fairphone 5 to the US in a reasonable amount of time, because the 4 is just too old for the price being charged.
The Fairphone 4 costs 649 here in Sweden so it doesnβt seem that different to me. Plus if it too gets 7 years of updates, that doesnβt seem like a bad price to me.
The main reason I moved to iOS over Android is because I hate changing phones every year, not even Google supports their phones as long as Apple does.
This is a good move by Fairphone. Hope they succeed.
I mean, if you're changing phones every year that's on you
7 years of updates sounds good, but it could also mean anything. They can update localisation files for 5 years
Why did they bring the Fairphone 4, but not the Fairphone 5?
There is no Fairphone 5 released yet in any regions.
If I check phones released 7 years old ... I do not to use them today. Even if updates would be provided.
Why not? If the phone is physically still functional, and receives software updates, why does it matter if its 7 years old?
To each their own. There's more to a phone than just if it's physically working and supported with updates. I definitely wouldn't be using an S7 Edge today because phones these days have better cameras, larger displays, better battery life, etc.
better cameras, larger displays, better battery life
Gotcha, that's exactly what I was asking. I can see how that could matter to some.
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