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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 236 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Why the fuck is anyone still using Twitter

[–] Scallops@ttrpg.network 2 points 5 days ago

The thing about a cult is that it doesn’t need you in particular. It needs people. Ideally, idiots. So it doesn’t matter that a lot of people are leaving/will leave Twitter. The idiots will remain, and the platform will serve its purpose.

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 85 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Or even talking about shit like this? Musk is living rent free in a lot of people's heads. The way to make him irrelevant is to treat him as such. Making a fuss about everything he says, gives him undue importance.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago (2 children)

To be fair, he's commanding a ton of influence among policy makers, so it's pretty critical to not completely ignore the bullshit he's up to.

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 35 points 1 week ago

It’s one of those things where, while I’m sick of hearing about his bullshit, I need to know if he does something that directly affects me. E.g. if he started doing a similar thing in my country as the stuff he’s trying with Britain at the moment then I’d write to a couple of representatives to let them know they’ll lose mine and many other votes if they side with the dopey billionaire muppet.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also because people like Musk are further empowered when no one is looking. I'm as tired of hearing about him as anyone but will keep reading until he's in prison, dead, or at least not the de facto president of the united states.

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[–] Naia_Elwyn@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Momentum.

The average person is really hard to move to a new platform. I saw this when Skype was the big thing for internet communication the Microsoft slowly made it worse and worse before it was barely a shadow of its former self.

Alternatives existed, many that were much better, but they were slightly harder to use or came along way after people were already set on Skype.

It wasn't until discord that the internet shifted, but even discord has its problems.

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[–] lobut@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Politics, sports, musicians, celebrities, news ...

Those are slow to move off if they are at all.

It's a shame.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Manalith@midwest.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Must be everyone living in the states that block Pornhub.

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Many answered you already but i'm gonna provide you with another piece of the puzzle. Why the fuck there always multiple threads about elon musk on lemmy frontpage? Propaganda and marketing runs deep.

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[–] r00ty@kbin.life 151 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is not even a surprise. It's exactly what I expected in fact. Just don't use X/Twitter/whatever we call it this week. Just don't use it, delete your account. It's literally a platform for Musk and the people that think like him now. Even taking part is validating him right now.

[–] pencil_nerd@mander.xyz 18 points 1 week ago

It's stormfront v2.

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[–] Robin@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I bet Grok doesn't even have a clue about Twitter policies and is just making shit up

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly, I don't know why people haven't understood that yet, Grok is just another LLM, it doesn't know shit, it doesn't understand shit, it just regurgitates words from the data it's been trained on and it certainly isn't an insider at Shitter.

Stop asking Grok what the fuck Elon is doing

IT

DOESN'T

KNOW

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago

The point is that LLMs are naturally biased but they're also explicitly biased by the people training them. Knowing what biases are being programmed into these LLMs by their owners is a glimpse into their agenda.

If you want to read more on the subject these are referred to as "system prompts" and you can read about various "system prompt leaks" that can include such things as explicitly right wing walking points.

Grok may very well have such nuggets in its system prompt.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It should probably make stuff up that doesn't make it's boss look bad.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Grok is a laughing stock in LLM world.

  • It’s worse than Gemini, Claude, so… why use it over API?

  • It’s not open source or even open weights. Elon is straight up lying when he claims it is.

  • It’s more expensive and generally more censored than great open weights models. Its even straight up worse than the remarkable Deepseek v3.

  • It has no niche. It’s not long context, it’s slopped from training on other models, it’s not fast, it has seemingly no architectural advantages (not that they publish anything about it,) it’s not particularly good at prose or code completion or answering grounded in facts (hence the subject of the OP) or anything.

  • Elon has one of the most inefficiently used H100 hoards on the planet, while other labs are making good models without being billionaires or scorching the Earth.

  • Elon is an asshole, and I don’t want anything to do with him.

  • Even for “business use,” simply associating with X makes you radioactive.

The only ostensible reason I can think of to use Grok is ignorance, or to lick the boots of Musk/Trump. It’s not good, it’s not ‘based,’ it’s just a shitty, expensive product hyped to the moon and “better some day.” Surprise, surprise…

Anyway, the point is Elon doesn’t care if Grok makes him look bad. Reality is irrelevant, he can hype the snot out of it and have hordes come running to bow in deference.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Isn't it great that Americans are so intelligent and well-informed that we voted to give this trashcan more power?

We pretty much fucked any chance we had for the middle/lower classes to gain more power/influence during our lifetimes. Weak middle/lower classes = shit country. It's only going downhill from here.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

We pretty much fucked any chance we had for the middle/lower classes to gain more power/influence during our lifetimes.

I may have disagreed with you if Kamala hadn't spent the end of 2024 proving that the destruction of the traditional Republican party (not that I was a fan of R in the first place) was all the excuse D needed to sprint to the right. It's not even like D is trying to pull things the other way, they have literally just embraced this opportunity to become even closer to corporate interests and move their party to the right.

They are fighting R because they are obligated to do so, but I no longer believe anyone in power in the Democrats cares any more about the middle class and non-white, non-male, non-Christian, non-straight Americans than R does. Pelosi put the final nail in the coffin of my good will towards Democrats.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I mean you can, and should be, pissed off at Democrats all you want. Doesn't change that all data point towards them being a better decision for middle/lower class Americans.

Problem is, a bunch of Americans feel the way you do, but instead of still voting intelligently, despite being upset with Dems, they chose to stay home or vote 3rd party.

So now a felon rapist is our leader and the ultra rich have made it abundantly clear average people like us are going to lose even more power.

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[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can't stress enough that most of the freedoms right wingers are trying to protect are your freedoms to obey and support the rich.

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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

why post an insubstantiated claim instead of just screenshotting the grok response? I want to believe this but it seems completely made up

[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What more does the Grok response provide? The response itself is made up. Ask the LLM the same question 5 times and you will get 5 different answers.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It provides evidence of the claim.

I understand that a simple first-hand account doesn't require evidence, but this isn't even that. The post doesn't say "I asked Grok this and this is what it said", it's literally "people" who supposedly asked it and supposedly got answers like that. Who? How many? What kind of responses exactly?

It combines lack of evidence/sources with hearsay, like what even is information worth at that point.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's important to reference this old chestnut in times like this:

The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

This applies to human behavior on this medium, not the machines and services themselves. So, the more service providers tighten their grip, the more users slip through their fingers. Short of that, people can also just adopt new slang to circumvent automated censorship mechanisms.

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[–] roofTophopper@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aaaand the solution to this? Get the fuck off Twitter. I don't know why people love to see blatant abuse of authority and are cool with that. Quit being chodes and supporting a chode.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I've always found the obsession with that pathetic platform a bit sad.

[–] cryoistalline@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Suggestion the public is being manipulated

to me this sounds like they're trying to cover something they're doing up

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[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Of course he does this after the election.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fuck this fascist playbook he’s running.

A wannabe Goebbels. Propaganda officer.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Elon is only a free speech absolutist in the sense that he’s absolutely free to censor speech he doesn’t like.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you can’t be deboosted any further a Starlink satellite will fall out of the sky and unlife you.

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago

Love how some of his loudest critics are his own daughter and his own AI.

[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] knightmare1147@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

"You are free to agree with my speech"

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[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sorry conservatives, you are now woke too. You gave it your best.

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[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 10 points 1 week ago

It's funny because the tweet in question denouncing that would be negative on 4 counts :D

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago

Sorry, you're going to have to be more specific. Musk? Is that a smell or something? Is there context I'm missing here?

[–] mp04610@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago
[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Jerkoff doesn't even know how to spell abolishionist

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