[-] BachenBenno@feddit.de 19 points 4 months ago

Yes, let's learn what happens between a cute little calf being born and a steak on your table. I'm sure they give their meat voluntarily...

[-] BachenBenno@feddit.de 8 points 4 months ago

Not true at all. Socialist countries were pretty much the only ones being able to feed their whole population with no one getting left behind. Sure you didn't have bananas all the time but that's beside the point. The only real famines in socialist countries occured in the very early years (after coming from different systems with famines being a regular thing) or during war.

Meanwhile under capitalism, millions starve every year even though we produce food for 10 billion people and could feed billions more without the unbelievably wasteful animal agriculture.

[-] BachenBenno@feddit.de 11 points 5 months ago

Stalin's 20 million and Mao's 70 million both come from a book called 'The Black Book of Communism' where th authors tried to inflate all the numbers as much as possible to arrive at 100 million deaths under communism in the end. The really high numbers come from taking the difference between the population decades later and what the population would have been if the borth rate hadn't dropped (even though lower birth rates are an indication of better living standards).

Also, if you leave out the USSR's purges (Soviet archives revealed around 800k), almost all of the deaths come from 'man made famines'. Completely disregarding that in both China and Russia there have been famines all the time before their revolutions. Both countries were among the poorest and most backward in the world. No government on earth could have prevented all famines immediately. After some years after Mao's and Stalin's reorganizations of agriculture, famines were eliminated (except for during WW2). Life expectancy doubled within 30 years under communist China. Very quickly in the Soviet Union as well.

Of course you can argue about the governments having been able to do it better in hindsight, but even then the deaths certainly weren't cold blooded murder.

Considering this, you certainly won't arrive at the tens of millions of people killed just by the US military. Many, many more if you factor in indirect deaths (by embargoes, sanctions, refusing to allow other countries to produce their vaccines, etc.).

[-] BachenBenno@feddit.de 26 points 5 months ago

Things that benefit the working class: Labor protection, minium wages, free education, etc. Without these things greater profits would be made. And every capitalist country slowly removes these benefits until major uprisings.

[-] BachenBenno@feddit.de 9 points 5 months ago

Let me guess. America?

[-] BachenBenno@feddit.de 6 points 5 months ago

Organize the working class

[-] BachenBenno@feddit.de 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What do you mean? Do you not believe in it? haha people are so stupid /s

[-] BachenBenno@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

First, factory lights only account for a small fraction of the power consumed and second people sleep at night. And third, it doesn't matter what the electricity costs if you don't have enough coal/oil/gas.

[-] BachenBenno@feddit.de -1 points 5 months ago

They turn most of their lights off at night to preserve power. They don't really have energy resources themselves and it is very difficult for them to get foreign currencies. They are still a poor country but considering that they are the most sanctioned country in the history of sanctions they are doing about at well as they can.

[-] BachenBenno@feddit.de -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Not so fast. While it is certainly questionable what they are doing and I personally don't like China either, the Uyghur situation is complicated and Bad Empanada made a detailed analysis of the situation while trying to be unbiased. Most of what we see (or rather saw since the trend kind of died) in western media is very exxagerated and there were reasons that had little to do with ethnicity.

You can watch it here, it's very long but worth it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz9ICFDk8Js

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