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[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not to belittle your point, but calling Marx a socialist and Engles a capitalist is a kin as calling Jesus a Christian who’s disciples were Jews.

Cowbee didn't do that. Cowbee said that Engles was a Capitalist, i.e. he had Capital, I am reading it as if you are mistaking it for Liberal? Cowbee also didn't call Marx a socialist.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Yea I haven't. But it changes none of what I have said.

As always, it ends like this.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is rapidly devolving into bad-faith pedantry, but fine

No it isn't.

Cowbee has asked multiple times for you to expand upon what you stated such that it can be engaged with. Much of what you have stated is vibes, it doesn't contain any specifics. You feel that Marx would have been this way, you feel that china is authoritarian, none of it engages with reality, none of it contains any sources. If asking for this is bad-faith pedantry, then no discussion can be had.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No, his stance is that Communism, or as I believe Marx called it upper stage communism, has not been achieved. Lower stage communism‒or socialism‒has, as seen in China and the USSR. Both of these are/were communist, as in they are/were led by Marxist/communist parties working towards Communism.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And what is authoritarianism? What are tankies?

For this to be a fruitful discussion, you two have to agree on what the definition of things are

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The first comment is self-contradictory, "not going to read" yet there is "circular logic". If they haven't read it, how can they know that it is there?

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why make a comment if you aren't going to engage in good faith? What is the point?

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You may not have seen it, but I changed it to an image with a bunch of quotes.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)
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