Yeah, this is a cool discussion. Thank you.

I've used organic maps, and maybe osmand? It's good! And progress is fast. But it's not quite there yet for me.

This conversation is making me realize that it may have been a year since I last tried it? Guess I'm due!

The user generated data on google maps is really useful though.

Google Maps. It sucks, and stores randomly pop in and out while you're trying to zoom in past the McDonalds ad that's showing despite you searching "shoe store", but it has so much more info than the competitors that they don't compare.