Even better, don't eat chicken either. Chicken still takes up more land simply by requiring land to grow feed. Anything plant-based will be a better solution.

Well yah, Musk pulled strings to gut the place of all their proprietary info and skilled engineers. How do you think SpaceX got so successful? It wasn't because of Musk.

Damn look at the storage space they have

Sauerkraut on pizza is amazing. Come to Minnesota and go to Red's Savoy, it's great.

Ooo, that could be too.

The Astartes would totally be on the side of Sauron. They're brainwashed child soldiers filled with xenophobia and hate. Definitely makes more sense for them to be Orcs - actually that's basically what Orcs are in Tolkien.

I love how the giant canopy, in combination with the retro console, implies that the spacers are too low tech to have a decent camera + screen setup, and instead must rely on eyeballing it to drive a frickin' spaceship. Cassette futurism is simply the best.

It comes from how the Netherlands defines it. Since they use Dutch, English-speakers had to kind of scramble to find any word that would fit.

I'm sure you feed your cat nothing but rodents.

And yah, turns out if you're an asshole people don't want to spend time with you. Big surprise, I'm sure.

Again, if you view reality - in this case, that vegan diets are better for the environment and for animal welfare - as an 'attack'... well I really don't know what to tell you. It really seems like something you need to handle on your own? Don't get mad at people for pointing out that the sky is blue and the grass is green.

I will take issue with the idea that vegan diets are more expensive. This is largely an artifact of Americans thinking you need to eat the overpriced 'fake meat' - really, fake beef, as they never seem to include mock duck. You don't. It's not even slightly necessary. As someone who has been vegetarian for years, I always roll my eyes a little bit when people talk about it.

I can make chili out of a few cans of beans, some onion and bell pepper, and chili powder. Or tacos from black beans, roasted sweet potatoes, and pico de gallo. Or stir fry with mock duck from a can and frozen vegetables. Or curry with tofu and curry powder. Or a huge number of other things that are all very cheap.

As for supplements...B12. A bottle of 100 pills is about 5 bucks. That's it.

To address your point about inavailablity...I have to laugh. Historically, meat has always been harder to obtain. A lot of vegan foods are vegan simply because people weren't able to get meat. If you're talking about prepared food like fast food, etc - sure, a lot of places don't even bother to have vegan options. But again, if you're trying to live off of takeout, you're really shooting yourself in the foot as far as cost goes. Just make some chili with cornbread and chill.

Pardon me for fighting you on this, but I believe you are incorrect. You're abdicating your responsibility, in assuming that those animals will always be killed.

Put it this way. If you lived next to a chicken farm, and drove over there any time you needed a chicken, and watched them kill it for you, would you have any qualms about saying it was killed for you? Why does having it go through a grocery store first somehow change this? However you get your meat, those animals were still killed for your benefit.

The average American eats about 250 pounds of meat in a year. That's a bit over half a cow, or about one and a half pigs, or somewhere north of a hundred chickens. That's the butcher's bill, directly attributable to the average American. So to take your own words - yes, if you stop eating meat, exactly one pig will not be killed every year. Around one and half, actually.

Sure, and good information for the discussion. This was my point: everyone was acting like vegans are actively delusional in feeding cats vegan food. While there are very much valid criticisms you can have, most people are not engaging with the facts, or with even a modicum of respect. Thank you for not being a part of that.