Real question: does India contribute anything to the kernel?

Let’s just say this properly ok so that 70 percent of the commenters here might better understand.

Association with some of the people previously on the kernel maintainers list was putting the Linux kernel at risk. The risk was that European, American, and other users may be prohibited from using it. The risk was that entities such as the Linux Foundation could be held in contempt of sanctions and sanctioned themselves. That could mean financial damage or even a full stop to operations.

If the kernel were sanctioned, every entity, individual or company, could be put at risk.

Association with sanctioned individuals put every other maintainer at risk. Being listed together in the maintainers file put many innocent people in extreme jeopardy.

So, let’s say this properly ok…

Some of the maintainers were removed to defend the Linux kernel and the many, many entities ( individual and corporate ) that use it. They were removed to protect the other maintainers and the people and companies that they associate with.

The Linux Foundation, being American, may have been particularly at risk. But “moving” the kernel does nothing. The contributors and maintainers are still wherever they are. Linux users are equally economically dependent on the US and Europe regardless. The issue are the international sanctions. My country has issued them too ( neither American or European ). And blaming the counties that issued the sanctions, instead of blaming Russia, is a very interesting morale position to take ( not getting into that here ).

My first reaction was to have a problem with how this was done. However, once you acknowledge the association, any interaction, collaboration, or communication becomes even more problematic as you KNOW that you are working with sanctioned individuals. So, doing it simply and succinctly was probably best.

I agree, it could have been done better.

Not just the USA. Certainly at least the EU as well. I belong to neither.

Not sure what better world you want where we are not “beholden” to laws though.

The GPL is certainly “beholden” to laws as well, including a total lack of developer freedom which I personally disagree with.

For precisely when we disagree, there have to be laws.

The F in FOSS stands for politics

Very nice link that not only does not have a list of names but also fairly explicitly explains that it is not talking about Americans killing Americans.

I am not going to spend more than 30 seconds on it but here is the first list of “lots” of Russians that are believed to have been assassinated by their own government.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_deaths_of_notable_Russians_in_2022%E2%80%932024

Despite your personal attacks, the trivially discoverable facts are not on your side.

I used Wikipedia since you apparently find it credible.

My favourite “suicide” of a notable Russian in the last couple of years was the one that had a suicide note signed by “illegible signature” ( what it actually said ). I guess the FSB did not totally understand the instructions.

Indeed A LOT of falling out of windows. Quite a bit of poisoning as well. These are the successful ones. How about that time they poisoned the entire Ukrainian peace team including the owner of the Chelsea Football Club?

It would be better to use .PCX or .TGA

The Digital Dark Age is real. At best, we are carving out runes out in a language the future will no longer understand.

What do you have stored on your Zip drives and DAT tapes? Because not only are we carving runes but in fact we are chiselling them into sandstone.

Paper writing will last vastly longer than most digital archive formats. If the data is not actually lost, the devices to read them will be. If we somehow read the data off, it will be incomprehensible gibberish. The file formats could eventually be decoded I suppose, like hieroglyphics. Unless of course they are encrypted….

500 years from now, there will be less information about what we were doing day to day than there is for things that happened hundreds of years ago. If anything is left, it will be the “official” record. In other words, all that will be left are lies.

The political downvoting in this thread is a turn off for me. However, I completely agree with your statement / question.

You are right that the tone was a little insulting.

That said, who is the “us” that you are referring to?

A lot of Open Source software is written by people that would not see the use of non-free components for testing as a problem. A lot of Open Source software is written by people that believe in the superiority of collaborative software development but do not have strong opinions on user freedom. The may ever value developer freedom in ways that is incompatible with the most extreme or idealist views of user freedom.

Are you demanding recognition to “us” for all that software?

The post you are replying to was unnecessarily combative. Your is no better and is supported by no better moral high-ground.

You just need his plane to make an “emergency landing” while on the way to somewhere else.

You would probably just nab a body double though. I doubt he leaves the country anymore ( except maybe for China ).

They are unlikely to. Putin was charged with abducting children, not just killing people. And his invasion was unprovoked. And…..politics.

If you drop the because, I agree.

America is not a signatory to the ICC ( wonder why ). They are not the reason that Putin was charged or why Brazil would arrest him.