PabloDiscobar

joined 1 year ago
[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still have coins. Do you have any advice on how to use them? Is there any word out there about it?

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Told ya.

Now that the insurance have lifted the taboo of stopping insuring people for climatic reason you will see more of those action everywhere.

https://kbin.social/m/news/t/188498/-/comment/763082

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

"Wait and see" how much money Facebook is ready to put on the table?

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Okay, I've been staying out of this but now I just have to:

What an entry!

what kind of extraordinary qualifications do you have to unilaterally decide which votes are valid and which are not? Is it as simple as any vote that disagrees with you is automatically "bullshit"?

I'm talking about very factual points: the usage of the tool that we are building now. Many of us have migrated because of the flaws of other media platforms.

Your position about "downvote" is like expression a feeling. For other people like me it's very factual. That's part of what I wanted to establish. It emotions vs facts all over again. The reaction I had were mostly based on feeling. Just like the content I'm seeing spammed here. Ragebait.

Have you considered that people are just downvoting you and moving on because they feel that the flaws in your arguments are apparent enough that they can just click the down arrow without having to type a whole essay about it?

And I gave them an opportunity to answer with arguments. That was the point. If they have such a big reason to downvote then let's go and say why. And the result is poof.... there was not much except feelings. This magazine is turning into a collection of ragebait. And now one of the default magazine of the alternative to reddit has fallen into the same trap that reddit laid to us: ragebait content. I wouldn't care if is was posted into USPolitics or politicus, but news, what, the whole planet???

I expected much better from the first wave of people who left reddit. In the end they just want more of the same ragebait.

And I know exactly what you are all going to say. "then go away if you don't like it". Yes, I don't like it, that's why I left reddit. I couldn't care less about your political shitshow non-stop circus which leaked thorough all the subs. You think people care about your senators killing a dog with their car? The people posting other news are now thrown down the frontpage so we can make more space for the latest Trumpstunt. And now you are getting out of the wood because you had too much! What a superhero you are.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doing things like calling out someone's post history or making a whiney edit about the people downvoting you are also reddit things. And that's the kind of behaviour you're exhibiting right here. You're being close minded and demanding that other people cater to your needs.

I'm not whining, I'm calling people out on their bullshit votes. @news is turning into political trash and you don't seem to care.

Just like Americans shouldn't only concern themselves with their news, you too shouldn't only close yourself off and only care about your news. And if you don't like it, unsubscribe yourself.

I'm not closed, I already posted about foreign countries. And if you are not happy with people calling you out on your bullshit then go back to reddit where you can downvote incognito.

You can turn this place to shit if you want to but I won't remain quiet about it, dude...

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

You asked why you were downvoted. It's because of your arrogant attitude and trolling.

You are the troll here, so change your tone: "Don't forget me too! 🤣"

You asked why anyone outside the US should care what happens in the US.

No, you read it wrong. I specifically talked about the nature of the post which was political. We already have magazines for politics, specially the US one, but the nature of the problem is politics seen as news. The US politics is and endless shitshow which doesn't qualify as news anymore. Breaking news! Trump called AOC FAT!

The answer is very simple. If the US experiences a collapse of some kind (which it might), it will have a profoundly negative effect on the value of currencies worldwide, including the EUR and GBP. So, no matter how much you hate it, the value of your currency is affected by the value of ours.

That must be the most ridiculous argument I've read so far. Look at this news that I just picked from the news magazine:

The Supreme Court will decide if abusive spouses have a right to own guns (vox.com)
Girlparts

The world is shaking! Suspense! Good thing that I've been informed about this one.

That's just one reason why you should care about the rise of conservatism and how it harms the U.S.

Keep it for @USpolitics

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

you can use https://ground.news to find foreign news in english so you can share them easily. Sorted by quality and political orientation.

https://ground.news/article/3e3c078d-de55-4f8b-9731-8e6ed80cc1fd

Cambodia ruling party victory a sure bet as campaigning begins for general election

which gives another point of view leaning right, from Australia.

https://thewest.com.au/politics/election/cambodian-pm-launches-virtually-unopposed-election-tilt-c-11149620?utm_source=ground.news&utm_medium=referral

Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen has launched his ruling party's campaign for re-election in a poll that has been criticised as a sham after the main opposition party was prevented from running.

But of course if you all want to share what brand of cereals Donald Trump had for breakfast then please be my guest and post it as NEWS. But the best place to do it is reddit.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Still, my opinion is the only one justified. Read the comments, see by yourself. I gave a chance to anyone who downvoted me to voice his opinion and all I saw was miss and miss.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And this magazine is @news.

Why don't YOU take your content and publish it into the magazine that was designed for it in the first place?

I will tell you: popularity! You don't want to read USpolitics because it's not popular, you want the buzz

Also, if you were a little bit coherent with what you said, you would agree with me. You said:

I'm not a refugee but I care that the Greek government effectively let hundreds die rather than assist them.

I'm not French but I am interested in the riots happening there.

I'm not Russian, Ukrainian, or even European but I want to know what is happening with the occupation of Ukraine, the coup attempt, and what other countries are doing to ensure the Russia doesn't violate NATO and the repercussions if they do.

So you pretend to care about what happens outside of the USA, but look at the results on news:

Zelensky, 5 upvotes

Uruguay, 3 upvotes

Sweden, 3 upvotes

Cambodia, 2 upvotes.

Israel 7

China 8

Australia 5

Germany 8

Scotland 7

uk 9

Colombia 5

meanwhile, prostitution in Maine 80

supreme court total around 500

See? This is american redditors pushing their political content in the news feed and pushing the content you wanted to see down the frontpage. What do you think of this?

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

And the news about Ukraine, France, Sweden, Uruguay, Cambodia, Australia are in the single digits. So kbin is turning into reddit. In less than 3 weeks we are back at square one. And this is without the influx of the people who will be pushed away from reddit on July.

It was cool while it lasted.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Downvoting and running away was a reddit thing, now you are accountable for your downvotes.

I have the maturity to ask for answer when people react to what I say. My question about sorting posts out of @news and moving them to @USpolitics is perfectly legitimate. I'm glad that some people took the time to answer so we can have a discussion, but so far among the handful of people who had the courage to put up a written argument I've read nothing convincing me that this post has its place in @news rather than in politics.

If all you want is a copy of reddit then please go back to reddit.You will have a barrage of US political news all day long.

You need to take some time to consider your own response and whether or not that's something WE want on the fediverse. You can just as easily be blocked too, you know.

Block me, be my guest, at least you won't be able to downvote me on sight anymore.

 

For the last few weeks we enjoyed a much better content on kbin than we had on reddit for a long time.

But it is coming to an end as more and more people will be leaving reddit for kbin. With them the trolls, the spammers and the ultrapoliticized americans. They want to push their ideology and there are legions of them.

Even though kbin is not american anymore, the sheer numbers and obsession of american people with their politics will quickly outnumber any other content here. The voting system will make your post about pertinent news sink to the bottom of the frontpage. Lost under the "Trump he said/she said" routine. The same thing that happened on reddit will happen on kbin: people will come for the politics and then spread in others magazines for a quick, uninteresting meme reply.

The articles on the web are still designed to infuriate the readers, so they react and create free ragecontent, and they will do it here. They will get infuriated here, just the same as they did on reddit. This mechanics hasn't changed by changing platform.

The NSFW content is coming, the political memecontent is coming, making the idea of federating this instance with any respectable other pole of interest impossible. If we are to name the federations, this one will become the greentext type of federation. Not a dangerous anarchist federation but certainly a pariah one.

That's why if you really are interested into discussing with people, you would be very well inspired to do it on another instance than kbin.social. Do it on a local instance, where the news are directed by people of your geographical region. Your default instance can only be a regional one, I can't see a global instance like "kbin.social" being not raided by americans with a political agenda. But they won't step a foot in madrid.social or berlin.social. In a sense it's even better if kbin.social can polarize and hold the kind of population which is hypnotized by number and popularity. The right usage of the fediverse should be to pick a local instance near you and only subscribe to niche magazines in different instances based on your specific needs.

The fediverse project will be tested with very high numbers of users now, and I don't think that the implicit federation model which is to accept everything by default and block some will survive the waves of political trolls. The federations will split and specialize, and will defederate en masse. The most sought after federations will become the technology ones, which will probably become picky on the creation of random magazines, like news and politics, since it attracts the worst in content creators. The kbin.social experiment will lead to a more strict moderation model in other instances and probably different way to count votes. I don't think that kbin.social will ever come back from being a perpetual testbench of a social platform.

So don't fall in love with your account on kbin, instead you should get ready to jump to another instance which will inevitably open on a server near you.

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