https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Comments
Pretty much all of the bottom section of that page is UM getting involved in the drama of this particular "anti-AI troll." He's getting involved on the correct side, but the point is he is certainly involved.
Technically the UN report only said that people who invaded on October 7th committed widespread sexual violence. They stopped short of saying whether or not it was Hamas (since a lot of people who were not Hamas also took part in the invasion and there was no real way to know who it was that did any particular thing.)
Ooh, you're gonna bust out a genetic fallacy. We're gonna start with the fallacious arguments already?
Okay, fair enough. Let me click on your profile and see how anti-political you are in general, so I can be sure not to judge you because of your instance.
Oh. That was quick lol. I didn't even have to read.
Oh, so I'm a loser for spending any time looking at this
Correct. Spending extensive time criticizing some other user for some kind of imagined sin, through a lens of purely "how can I insult this person and come up with mischaracterizations or framings of real things they did that make them look as bad as possible, or else just making up total bullshit that would have been bad if they'd done it," is loser behavior. Yes.
but he's not a loser for talking a bunch of shit about politics that he does not understand and cannot take any criticism for
Uhhhhh
Really trying not to reach for the genetic fallacy here lol
Okay. My main point was that, caring about politics and being impassioned about wanting to say your thing and stick up for your viewpoint, also wanting to attack the perceived opposite viewpoint, is more than anything the single defining characteristic of a lot of communities on Lemmy. I'll say it that way. To me, that's a good thing. I was actually really happy when I came here originally and found tankies and anarchists. It speaks to (a) people who care about politics, which speaking as a terminally online weirdo I really like (b) a diversity of viewpoints. It's a good thing. Now you're trying to turn it around into because his viewpoint is one you don't agree with, he's all of a sudden a big doo doo head because he cares about it enough to argue about it... while, presumably, caring so much about it yourself that you get impassioned and start typing all heated-up about it if someone disagrees with you.
To me, arguing about politics and having strong opinions about it is fine. It is one of the defining features of Lemmy. It sounds like you're all of a sudden only deciding that it's this stupid loser weirdo behavior because he has a different viewpoint than you, and because you can't handle that, you have to try to spin around in any direction you can to find something to use to attack him with. Instead of just debating with him on the merits of whatever it is (or, alternatively, just leaving it alone like a more normal person).
How'd I do at avoiding the fallacy?
Man, I gotta go make my own little whiny community on pifed, so then maybe the great Philip the Bucket won't see me as such a loser.
No need! Your instance will happily ban anyone who disagrees with you too loudly, so you don't need to, the whiny little community is already created for you.
Oh shit I blew it at the end lol
They're the real victims here. After all, someone ambushed them and started talking about politics, which they have clearly specified in their profiles as something they don't consent to speaking or hearing about.
Don't even get me started on the idea of someone doing moderation about a political topic. On Lemmy.
Cool! Now accuse him of caring way too much about politics, and getting in heated debates about it like a LOSER, speaking as you are from your lemmy.ml address. That'll make perfect sense too.
Abusive is when people stack up two hundred and thirteen comments freaking out about what a terrible person you are and insulting you personally, and you start replying to them
It's unfortunate you're unable to view nuance.
Lol
Okey dokey
It's hilarious to me that this whole community of people is having a days-long freakout about what a big deal it is that PugJesus commits this multitude of sins (which have gradually reduced in scope from "abusive" "transphobic" "zionist" whatever else into "he's a liberal" (allegedly) "he argues about politics and I think that shouldn't be allowed apparently")... while also accusing him of caring way too much and being a loser therefore.
Y'all should follow your own advice, and get a life and stop freaking out about what some other person on Lemmy did.
he tends to be a loudmouth radlib
Okay, so now we've got "loser," "twat," "loudmouth," has a psychological disorder, "zio," mental issues, the whole nine yards.
And, somehow, that's not abusive. PJ giving downvotes and arguing about politics, though, is.
Good to know.
Even beyond the transparent transphobic trolling they were displaying in the first place, even after Ada got reports that they were actively encouraging other users to harm themselves and other objectively rule-breaking behavior, she was still going to bat for them and refusing to take any action (and still taking action against anyone who criticized them), and basically explained that it was because she felt bad that they were getting so much abuse so she was willing to overlook their misbehavior. Eventually, they did something to Ada, and at that point, she suddenly realized they were bad, and evicted them.
Everybody makes mistakes and misjudgements. It's fine. But I feel like Ada has probably experienced things in her life that make it feel like pronouns are the most important thing, for example more important even than kicking out an obvious troll or making a safe space for queer people who are looking for a place to be but don't 100% agree with or obey her stance on certain things. I think it makes her susceptible to viewing every situation through that singular lens, and thinking anyone viewing it through any other lens at all must be being evil on purpose (and then going on the attack against them). Q.v., comments elsewhere in this thread.
I have no idea. I tried to talk sense into her elsewhere in these comments, got nowhere, and oh well.
So many people are thin skinned and have nothing better to do than to spend their OWN FREE TIME making other people less happy. Imagine instead of having fun or relaxing or playing a game or going outside or hanging with friends ..... you stomp on other people because they have a differing opinion or said something you didn't like.
Thank you! Yeah, I 100% agree with all of this.
This person should not be a mod. This person has a miserable life.
Wait.... do you mean PugJesus, or the person that banned him? I was 100% on board when I interpreted it as "the person that banned him," yes.
This thread seems 100% full of people steaming up fake drama as enthusiastically as they possibly can, while also, accusing PJ of stirring up drama and apparently saying he should be banned for it.
On the evening of 23 July, protests began in various Ukrainian cities over draft law No. 12414, which restricts the independence of the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) and the Specialised Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAPO). The day before, it was signed by the president.
Source: Ukrainian public broadcaster Suspilne; Telegraf, online media outlet in the city of Kremenchuk; Ukrainska Pravda correspondents
Details: People have started gathering in Mykolaiv, Chernihiv, Kremenchuk, Chernivtsi and Dnipro. In Kyiv, a protest near the Ivan Franko National Academic Drama Theater was scheduled for 20:00.
As calculated by Suspilne, protests were announced in at least 17 cities.
People protesting in Chernihiv.
Photo: Ukrainska Pravda
People protesting in Chernihiv.
Photo: Ukrainska Pravda
*People protesting in Chernivtsi.*Photo: Suspilne
*People protesting in Dnipro.*Photo: Suspilne
*People protesting in Dnipro.*Photo: Suspilne
People protesting in LvivPhoto: Tanya Platsok, Ukrainska Pravda
People protesting in LvivPhoto: Tania platsok, Ukrainska Pravda
The previous day, protests were already held in Kyiv, Dnipro, Odesa, Lviv, Sumy, Lutsk and other cities.
Background:
On 21 July, employees of the Security Service of Ukraine and the Prosecutor General's Office conducted approximately 80 searches targeting 19 employees of the National Anti-Corruption Bureau in various oblasts of Ukraine.On 22 July, the Verkhovna Rada (Parliamentary) Committee on Law Enforcement backed amendments to the Code of Criminal Procedure that would make NABU and SAPO – currently independent anti-corruption institutions – dependent on the decisions of the prosecutor general.On the evening of 22 July, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed bill No. 12414.Protests were held in many cities across Ukraine following the adoption of this legislative initiative.
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Ukrainians rallied in Kyiv and other major cities on July 22 after lawmakers passed a bill that would effectively destroy two of Ukraine's key anti-corruption bodies, in the first country-wide protests since Russia's full-scale invasion began.
Demonstrators gathered in Kyiv, Lviv, Dnipro, and Odesa to oppose the legislation, which grants sweeping new powers to the prosecutor general over the National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) and the Specialized Anti-Corruption Prosecutor's Office (SAPO).
"Take cardboard from boxes and make posters where you write everything you think about the recent onslaught," war veteran Dmytro Koziatynskyi wrote in a Facebook post that helped mobilize the protests.
The bill allows the prosecutor general to issue binding instructions to NABU, reassign cases outside the agency, and delegate SAPO's authority to other prosecutors. Critics say the changes dismantle safeguards that protect both bodies from political interference.
People gathered to protest a bill passed in Ukraine's parliament that strips independence from anti-corruption bodies, in Kyiv, Ukraine on July 22, 2025. (Danylo Antoniuk/The Kyiv Independent)
Parliament approved the bill earlier that day with 263 votes in favor, 13 against, and 13 abstaining. The measure moved through committee and the legislature and was signed by Speaker Ruslan Stefanchuk within hours. It is now awaiting President Volodymyr Zelensky's decision to either sign or veto it.
In the capital, protesters carrying flags and handmade signs chanted "Get your hands off NABU and SAP," "Veto the law," and "No corruption in government."
The atmosphere was spirited and defiant, with chants of "Power belongs to the people" and periodic renditions of the national anthem. Kyiv Independent journalists at the scene reported a crowd including veterans, active-duty soldiers, and civilians.
On July 22, 2025, Ukrainians gathered in Kyiv after lawmakers passed a bill that effectively destroys two of Ukraine's main anti-corruption agencies. (Katya Denisova / The Kyiv Independent)
On July 22, 2025, Ukrainians gathered in Kyiv after lawmakers passed a bill that effectively destroys two of Ukraine's main anti-corruption agencies. (Katya Denisova / The Kyiv Independent)
Protests also broke out in the western city of Lviv, where several hundred people gathered on the central Svobody Avenue, chanting "Shame!" and "Corruption is the death of the future."
Standing around a statue of Ukraine's most revered poet, Taras Shevchenko, demonstrators raised signs urging the president to block the law.
On July 22, 2025, Ukrainians gathered in Lviv after lawmakers passed a bill that effectively destroys two of Ukraine's main anti-corruption agencies. (Martin Fornusek / The Kyiv Independent)
The protests reflect mounting concern that Ukraine's anti-corruption drive — a core condition for EU membership and international aid — is under threat.
Earlier, the move drew criticism from Kyiv's international partners. European Commissioner for Enlargement Marta Kos expressed "serious concern" over the bill's adoption.
"The dismantling of key safeguards protecting NABU's independence is a serious step back," Kos wrote on X. "Independent bodies like NABU and SAPO are essential for Ukraine's EU path. Rule of law remains in the very center of EU accession negotiations."
The changes would amount to the "destruction of NABU and SAPO's independence and practically subordinate their activities to the prosecutor general," NABU said in a statement.
"Ukraine's anti-corruption infrastructure, built since 2015, will be destroyed," the agency added.
Read also: Editorial: Zelensky is one signature away from betraying Ukraine’s democracy
What?
This whole conversation is turning very stupid. Talking about politics is great. Insulting other people directly or making up things they didn't do is not. That's true on all sides, in my opinion.
Me pointing out your hypocrisy in suddenly freaking out about PJ talking about politics and that meaning he's an always-online weirdo doesn't mean all of a sudden I am being hypocritical about it.
Honestly, I just don't feel like being in this conversation any more, it feels like you have more energy to try to "win" it and care more about it than I do. I said what I had to say.
I can literally look down the thread and see the sources he's citing to you. They are pretty comprehensive. I tried to get involved in the same conversation with you, I think I got bored of the conversation before my comment posted, all I can say is that it's completely stupid (and absolutely on-brand for lemmy.ml) to claim that someone who says there IS genocide in Ukraine somehow means they're Zionist or pro-Western, or saying there is NOT genocide in Gaza. Putin's ICC warrant literally listed child deportation as the primary crime. There is also genocide in Gaza, it's a lot more unambiguous there than in Ukraine, but they are both happening.
Also:
https://lemmy.world/search?q=sealioning&type=All&listingType=All&creatorId=1252800&page=1&sort=TopAll
https://lemmy.world/search?q=sealion&type=All&listingType=All&creatorId=1252800&page=1&sort=TopAll
https://lemmy.world/post/33270073/18378824
HOLY God
All I can picture is two people in a Will Farrel movie or something just aggressively slap-fighting overhand at each other while leaning their faces away and grimacing. I think I wasted time taking you seriously and trying to respond to what you were saying lol.
If PJ wants to talk with you, he's welcome to it, I think I've said as much as I plan to at this point.