I hate to use this term but you are literally arguing against facts with only feelings; feelings based on comments that arguably amount to mere puffery. My argument is that there is no good guys here, but it appears you are stuck on the point that Trump was worse for undocumented individuals because of feelings, rather than an actual objective measure like numbers.

You expanded the scope of the discussion (that you weren’t involved in at that) just to get yourself upset.

So you claim that Trump is objectively worse because he was vocal rather than Obama doing it on a muted basis? Despite Obama doing substantially higher numbers? That is definitely some take on these set of facts.

Obama was literally known as deporter-in-chief and he deported more in his in either of his terms than Trump did in his four years Source. But be careful some smart ass is probably gonna start screaming you can’t say both sides, and you’re a foreign asset trying to depress the vote because they can’t be bothered to read.

Biden already worked under someone who had no problem killing US civilians Source. That escaped prosecution because it was an official act despite it being a clearly criminal act 18 U.S. Code § 1119

So after having a Democrat president that opened the borders, the only area to vote Democrat was the only area that has a well-staffed Border Patrol presence (El Paso / Ciudad Juarez) easily explains this. I don’t understand how people are quick to embrace crazy racist narratives instead of the simple one, other than those pushing that story are the racists or seek to divide Americans.

All I keep seeing on my feed from the mtf crowd is doom and gloom, meanwhile https://www.npr.org/2024/11/05/g-s1-32741/sarah-mcbride-transgender-first-delaware also happened last night, and no one even seems to want to acknowledge it. Instead it's all I need to move to another country because America is so backwards.

The problem is neither of the major candidates are even close to near my ideals. Like literally both sides are surviving on hate for the other side in my eyes. Like how many Kamala supporters you seen that aren’t essentially Fuck Trump, and how many Trump supporters you seen that aren’t essentially Fuck Kamala & Biden. I feel like I am taking crazy pills, because neither side is for the average person or even well liked. Meanwhile I keep being told, oh just learn to make a million concessions and support my candidate. When I resist, those same people claim I am some foreign operative who is trying to discourage voting, and if I am serious to revisit this issue next November like I have been for decades where each time I am told the same nonsense.

That was alot to tell me that ”now is not the time, support my candidate and it will get better”, like has been told to me since before the turn of the century. That you don’t understand why I am upset, sounds like you just want to “stay the course.”

Bro, you people always say its the wrong time or place. You think I am a Russian propagandist because I am upset people like yourself want to support the status quo? Since we are being baseless in our accusations, how do I know you’re not an Israeli operative since you came here to tell me I am wrong if I don’t vote for one of the two pro-genocide candidates?