StillPaisleyCat

Our household has been coming at it from our understanding of physics, and have been since at least the 90s. It means that we’ve been watching through that lens for a very long time.

Without it, the episodes in Voyager where Harry Kim or Janeway came back to correct the timeline are meaningless. We would just assume that the unchanged timeline went forward offscreen.

This resilient river of time version offers a continuity where actions matter, and corrections to the timeline mean something more than just a shift in point of view.

As you note, multiple universes can exist but it takes something very large to do it. In Star Trek, we’re not in the infinite and ever expanding continuum of branching universes where every possible permutation of events exists. (And that version of the multiverse doesn’t stand up for hard scientists.)

So far we know that the Mirror Universe has different physics of light - something that’s so enormous that it’s hard to credit that it’s developed in any kind of parallel. It suggests some fixed events in the past development of the two universes that are extraordinarily resilient against branching.

The Romulan supernova is a major event but of a much lower order of magnitude than say the establishment of the physics of light. It seems like that would be a kind of lower bound for a branching trigger.

All to say that I agree that a Daystrom Institute deep dive would be worthwhile. In fact, it may be possible to go through onscreen canon and itemize the various events and inconsistencies that support this construct.

I appreciate the risk, but it seems that we’ve got a canon confirmation already.

There will be slippage. We already know that Voyager changed the timeline after the events of DS9. The Romulan Supernova and Picard season 2 perturbed it further.

The key thing is that there do exist some time crystals (as defined in physics not necessarily the glowing blue ones on Borath) which are events that are fixed points in the timeline. Those have to happen, like Pike’s injuries, and cannot slip too much without a fork.

Physics just doesn’t support the rigidity of precise dates in the timeline that would give many fans comfort nor does it support the infinite branching that makes everything meaningless.

Really appreciate your detailed response.

Definitely sparking interest in our household. Our experience is limited to Lego.

Would really appreciate more about your experience building it, or any other BlueBrixx Star Trek models.

How was the quality?

Did you have to glue as you built?

What’s the process to replace missing, damaged or deformed pieces?

I‘ve seen elsewhere that there’s a higher proportion of deformed pieces, and that the more spindly or joining pieces are more likely to be misformed.

Maybe they know that she has Pelia there to comfort her?

La’an couldn’t tell Pelia the details around Khan or the Romulan incursions, but if Pelia recognizes her and asks after the handsome young companion she has with her in the 21st century, she could at least offer comfort for his nonexistence in this presence. I doubt Pelia could see La’an with this universe’s Kirk and not put her memories together.

But Mirror Darkly need not be correct in the exact year at this point.

It’s established now that there have been successive incursions in the timeline. Time has been resistant to forks that eliminate major events entirely, but the years in which any given major event took place may shift.

If it gives TNG Berman-era fans of Picard season three comfort, this explanation can account for how Jack Crusher was both born after Nemesis and is 23-24 years old in 2401. That is, there occurred a subtle shift in the timeline between Nemesis and Picard such that Nemesis took place a few years earlier than originally.

Again, these are not the ratcheting changes of 12 Monkeys, they are eddies in the river of the Prime Timeline that shift the flow a bit but the major points of its route remains the same.

It’s never been in any way realistic that most of the time travel incursions didn’t somewhat change the Prime continuity.

There are exceptions with the Guardian of Forever’s intervention, but First Contact and Voyager’s temporal interventions had to had changed the small things.

Besides, Roddenberry himself decided to change the timing of WW3 and the first human warp technology in TNG Encounter at Farpoint. There has been a change in continuity since at least that point.

This actually makes sense of it in-universe and in terms of physics.

It’s fans rigidly trying to ignore these revisions in the Prime timeline that is an issue in terms of physics.

I agree. At one point, I wondered if the EPs had wanted Cara Gee for the show.

She’s her own person now. Strong and closed like Drummer but from a very different context.

Many of us who are fans of both Trek and The Expanse have wished Trek had some of the complex strong women along the lines of the Expanse. I can’t criticize the EPs for wanting to bring that into the franchise. Now all I want is a Trek version of Avrasala.

It’s at Pinewood on the old Portlands owned by the City of Toronto on the east side of the downtown core. The Pinewood complex is now minority-owned and run by the massive Bell Media. There is currently construction underway to double the size of the complex.

CBS Stages Canada in Mississauga opened in 2019 (Deadline, local articles ). Mississauga is just west of metro Toronto in Peel County. Toronto International Airport is on the border of the two.

SNW has its soundstages at CBS Stages, and it seems the Enterprise bridge set from Discovery season 2 had to be relocated from Pinewood and rebuilt there.

CBS Stages Canada is an initiative of the two Canadian EPs working on Discovery, SNW and Starfleet Academy - Frank Siracusa and John Weber. There were articles locally in 2018 when the project launched saying that they had convinced CBS Studios to establish their own soundstages for future rather than rely on leasing.

To be fair, the ceiling height on that enormous soundstage volume at Pinewood Toronto is exceptional.

We’ll miss those two-story sets when the lease is up.

You’d think Slashfilm, as an industry inward-looking site, would have done the research though. Just because it’s in Canada, doesn’t mean it’s not publicly available information. Or, they could have asked. Makes me more cautious on their basic journalistic standards.

Here’s an alternate take. Keeping in mind that La’an is a security officer trained in investigative methods.

La’an could hear the voices and footfalls of a security response team. She knew they would be there in moments.

The investigators would be looking for the gun that shot Kirk and 3 guards.

With that weapon recovered, the search would focus on the missing shooter who they would have on security cameras in the foyer.

Without the weapon, there would be another level of scrutiny, and such scrutiny might draw attention to the Noonien-Singh project that might be enough in itself to alter history.

By leaving the weapon in plain sight, with her own markered DNA on it as well as Sera’s likely-tweaked Romulan DNA, she’s left enough for the investigators to look beyond the facility for their escaped killer without actually revealing how and where she and Sera exited.

I liked that solution. Christopher L Bennet is solid on the options for physics solutions.