ThirdMoonOfPluto

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Ultimately, Star Trek isn’t going to succeed as a giant billion dollar franchise like Marvel or Star Wars and trying to turn it into one is likely to kill it. What it can be is an ongoing series of shows which are financially and creatively successful. However, it needs is a creative refresh. Too often Star Trek and other tv/movie sci fi is just remixing decades old science fiction concepts.

If I was running Star Trek, I would recruit a collection of great science fiction writers and/or buy a bunch of original science fiction stories to bring in ideas people haven’t seen multiple times. Set the show in a new region with some separation to explain why we aren’t seeing Klingons and Romulans and all the rest and tell some great science fiction stories. Ideas will drive buzz which will bring in new viewers.

I’m sure the motivation of Paramount is that they need X weeks of Star Trek content a year to maximize the subscription income from Star Trek fans. If they can get roughly the same benefit from a sitcom which is much cheaper than an hour long show, they’ll jump at it.

The Macguffin of the story, the Godsend, was a built by Georgiou as a deterrent against anyone trying to overthrow her. She says there were always plotters and coups.

I could see it as part of a Tetrarchy type system. For periods during the Roman Empire there wasn’t a single Emperor there were 4. A junior (Caesar) and senior (Augustus) emperor for the Western and Eastern empires.

The Roman Empire’s government had two major related problems. It never established a stable and reliable means of succession and because of that the Emperor couldn’t delegate major problems to anyone else because that person would become a threat to overthrow the Emperor. The Tetrarchy was an attempted solution. Two emperor’s would share power and have junior colleagues that they could delegate tasks to who would eventually succeed them. It didn’t really work out and only lasted about 30 years before Constantine made himself sole Emperor.

The Terran Empire would clearly face similar problems with regards to succession. I could see an Emperor setting up a system where a junior Emperor was chosen by the Hunger Games method. I also wouldn’t expect it to last.

[–] ThirdMoonOfPluto@startrek.website 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

There’s a germ of a good idea here. A show following a band of misfits around the edges of the Star Trek universe while they get into and out of trouble could be fun. Several of the characters like Zeph and Fuzz have interesting concepts which we haven’t seen yet in Star Trek.

The bad however out weighs the good. One, it makes no sense for a super-secret spy agency to employ this bunch of marginally competent weirdos and it really doesn’t sell why a team of by the book Starfleet Intelligence officers couldn’t have handled this problem by the end of the opening credits.

Two, a history as a genocidal space dictator isn’t just a quirky character trait. The movie sometimes wants to deal with that seriously and other times treats it as a joke. I don’t know if there is a right way to deal with it, but this movie definitely isn’t it.

Three, this movie definitely inherits many of Discovery’s worst traits of frenetic camera work and inability to slow down long enough for us to get to know the characters.

[–] ThirdMoonOfPluto@startrek.website 33 points 1 month ago (21 children)

I’m disappointed that they clearly don’t. The same tired justifications which amount to the ideals of Star Trek are a luxury made possible by hard men doing bad things in the dark.

[–] ThirdMoonOfPluto@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

His dad was a scientist developing the Warp 5 engine, so I'd guess somewhere which either has a major STEM university or a research lab. Some options would include: Ithaca- Cornell University Rochester- Rochester Institute of Technology Rome- US Air Force Rome Lab Syracuse - Syracuse University

[–] ThirdMoonOfPluto@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

One question I had , what has Pike done or going to do that justifies his birthday being a holiday in the 24th century? That's a pretty rare honor which would require something pretty impressive.

It could be a US ship. Perhaps the civilian ships retain their national status and only the military is unified under the United Earth Fleet.