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The following is a cross-post from my mastodon thread

In the wake of metas enshitiffication I have seen people recommend Signal and Matrix as private open source alternatives to meta products. In the following thread I will outline how if your goal is software freedom anti surveillance and anti censorship the best option for direct and group messaging is neither Signal nor Matrix but instead the up and coming https://simplex.chat/

Signal is centralised meaning its vulnerable to censorship it almost got backdoored by uks online safety bill and that bill still has a damocles sword clause hanging over signal. Signal is also not anonymous, your account is linked to you through your phone number, if your contacts are compromised then your conversations can easily be linked back to you and your contacts all be correlated. In contrast simplex is like having "a burner phone for every contact" meaning even if one contact is correlated you have no consistent identity that can be compromised by default. Also simplex has a custom onion routing protocol to hide your ip from relay servers by default and it makes it very easy to connect over tor if simplex is blocked in your country im pretty sure signal doesnt do that. Matrix has been floated as potentially being a decentralised and e2ee open source alternative to Signal, but Signal shares one massive pro with SimpleX which is that both have post quantum encryption meaning that quantum computers that many researchers say are a few short years away from being able to decrypt all historical data that is encrypted using classical techniques ie not post-quantum encryption - such as the private messages you are sending across matrix today Afaik Matrix currently has no plans to add post quantum (PQ) encryption today and previously they were relying on it being implemented in MLS a standard that Matrix has been trying to adapt to their decentralised framework for years with stagnant process. Whats more afaict the motion to add PQ to MLS quietly expired and wasn't renewed so it's likely not coming any time soon. SimpleX has PQ on top of their classical encryption implemented and working today and you can download the app and have PQ rn (the additional classical encryption is insurance in case it turns out PQ has some classical attack vector, hybrid encryption is recommended by sec researchers at this stage) In conclusion both Signal and SimpleX are PQ unlike matrix but SimpleX and Matrix are decentralised and less vulnerable to censorship than Signal, while only SimpleX supports Tor connections and protects ur IP with or without Tor, and has no persistent unique identifier creating a "burner phone for every contact" scenario where compromised contacts cant necessarily be used to correlate ur other contacts/groups simply by looking at ur phone number/username in those groups

Heres some evidence and argumentation to support building post quantum encryption now, state and capital are hoovering up encrypted data rn to decrypt for profit as soon as it becomes cheap enough to do so with quantum computers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UrdExQW0cs

And here's the best explainer of SimpleX on youtube, sorry about the racist thumbnail the guys a right winger but his knowledge on OPSEC is valuable. If you don't know why the thumbnail is racist search "Terry Davis glow in dark" (the search results for which I have to give a racist slur cw for but theres no slurs in this video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cRu98XSap0

edit: see whitepaper for technical privacy details https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplexmq/blob/stable/protocol/overview-tjr.md

I noticed we have a discord link but not a matrix or simplex link? Also the spreadsheet is done on google sheets, I just did like 5 seconds of research so I could be wrong but it looks like baserow is an open source alternative that has self hosting a free tier to use their hosting for small projects like the one linked in the server description.

I don't want to toot my own horn but there is already a direct democratic matrix space #vegan.en:tedomum.net run according to anarchist principles and I could have sworn it used to be listed in the server description here like a year ago

Anyway just a quick post to ask what are peoples thoughts on FOSS in the vegan movement because I think its essential to support the privacy needs of our comrades doing direct action

If you've read my previous post detailing my process of discovering that plastics, paper, cardboard, inks, dyes, glues and ceramics all can contain animal products - not just their excretions, in each of these cases flesh and bones may be used - then you may be remembering an argument vegans sometimes get which is that no one can be 100% vegan. While this is a nirvana fallacy it has got me thinking these last couple months as to what the limit of individual responsibility is.

In the past I have said vegans shouldn't wear leather even if they already bought it because it is commodification and objectification and a strong psychological indicator that leather as a concept is OK on some level.

But if we extend this logic to the keyboard I'm using to type this, what if the plastic contains traces of tallow used in plastic manufacturing, is that disrespectful to the animals that died? OK maybe you could argue it doesn't make much of a different now, "maybe", you say, "the animal flesh content is so low and not even confirmed so the psychological/signalling impact is minimal right" ignoring the fact that turns the victim's deaths into a numbers game, who die to have their tortured bodies desecrated into the very materials that literally surround our entire lives in this death cult society (most of us at least), so yeah ignoring that this argument says "its OK because its only a little bit of dead animal" what about new purchases?

The other week my mouse broke, I use it with my laptop because I find it much more convenient than the track-pad, and playing Mineclonia is basically impossible without it. But, for most use cases I can get by with a keyboard, I use a tiling window manager so most of my computer navigation is done by keyboard anyway. Anyway my point is, how could I justify paying for what is probably dead animal parts in the plastic, inks, and then the cardboard and inks the mouse comes in. So I tried contacting Razer and Steelseries, Razer was more promising but eventually both admitted they could not answer my question and promised to look into it in the future and provide information on their website (I'll believe it when I see it) I've yet to contact Asus, Logitech and probably a bunch of other manufacturers but at the moment its just more effort than its worth I spent weeks going back and forth with Razer to no avail, and what if Asus and Logitech don't know either? I know this is a pessimistic way to think and I should just try contacting them because this is the only way things will get better if we just start by asking.

But thats not all, I recently lost my better hairbrush and haven't even begun looking for a vegan one yet due to lack of motivation, I'm on my last hair bobble and I don't know any vegan options for that either.

I'm sorry this sounds like complaining and it mostly is but my point is basically the anti vegan point but from the other side: it is hard if not impossible to be 100% vegan, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try right? like individually none of these things justify killing an animal if I stood in front of a pig I couldn't say I'm sorry I've got to crush your bones into black ink to print a brochure manual for my new mouse because its slightly more comfortable than my laptop track-pad, while that is true taken in aggregate this is a very difficult moral principle to uphold,

I'm not asking for permission to buy these things and I'm not going to suddenly become an ex vegan, but I'm angry at this society that they put dead animal parts in so much, that they make people unwitting participants in their death cult, what about for example if I go to a restaurant and restaurants have chairs right? and those chairs are either plastic or they may have leather or non vegan wood veneer or wood glue. Eventually these will need replacing. But wait I hear you say, "that's not part of what you're paying for so there is no supply demand relationship there! That's a choice the restaurant makes independently of a vegan customers choices" is it independent though? lets imagine two restaurants one selling vegan options and one owned by a vegan cooperative, the owners have down their best to source as many vegan materials as they can for their vegan decor, they only use vegan cleaning products even their menu leaflets are printed with soy ink on vegan paper, this is all great but now lets say vegans go to the non vegan restaurant thinking they are only responsible for the things they directly pay for: of course the non vegan restaurant is more popular because it caters to a wider group of people, and within a few years the vegan restaurant closes down: now there's one less restaurant in the world actually committed to vegan ideals. So through this story I think we can come to understand that although non vegan components of businesses are not practiced for us they are practiced on out behalf, which makes us culpable, essentially washing the blood from our hands for a practice we know is happening on our behalf but we choose to ignore as not out responsibility.

So where am I going with this tangent about restaurants: well given the prevalence of potentially non vegan materials: items like computer equipment, tyres and shipping/packing materials may also technically be non-vegan, and if we can reasonably assume there's a good chance non vegan computer equipment or tyres were put through use and wore down, then we can surmise that a fraction of any purchase we make goes towards buying new tyres of hard-drives, now if we were making those purchases we would get Michelin tyres https://veganfoundry.com/are-tyres-vegan/ or Seagate hard-drives (contact my simplex for the correspondence screenshots) but since we don't know what decisions these companies are making and 99% of people aren't vegan the odds are good that a fraction of your money went to buying new tyres or hard-drives or whatever else that contains animal flesh.

What about this very site even? Despite the owners themselves presumably being vegan are they even aware that the hard-drives may contain animal products? Does me posting this contribute to the ongoing objectification and commodification of animal victims flesh in the plastic manufacturing industry?

I don't have these answers and I'm feeling totally lost. My only hope is that more vegans will take at least some steps to ameliorate these issues perhaps by contacting companies, I myself will be recontacting the companies that confirmed the vegan status of their products and packaging and asking them if they would include this information on their FAQ pages as soon as I can get the motivation to do that

NB The attached image is the first published book to be certified vegan, so at least I can buy that item with a clear conscience probably haha

SimpleX Contact: https://simplex.chat/contact#/?v=2-7&smp=smp%3A%2F%2FUkMFNAXLXeAAe0beCa4w6X_zp18PwxSaSjY17BKUGXQ%3D%40smp12.simplex.im%2FADxWlMmoMmzsMG8isEJ_l_w9fnE7wh4N%23%2F%3Fv%3D1-3%26dh%3DMCowBQYDK2VuAyEAZnCpc3cQa4VLOwxhQ8TW5n8jQsspX3OeRSBxmn-F9k0%253D%26srv%3Die42b5weq7zdkghocs3mgxdjeuycheeqqmksntj57rmejagmg4eor5yd.onion