borisentiu

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[–] borisentiu@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Yes, these are suggestions for the sidebar. The part with joinfedi...wiki (and joinfedi...net too!) & the other info Could be added to it, if it's not a longer list for now.

[–] borisentiu@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's an option, yes. Maybe 'forumverse', 'threadiverse' etc on top of Fediverse is a bit confusing for starters?

If you are interested in forums, we have put together some resources to help new users get started with the platforms Lemmy/ Mbin / Piefed ...

[–] borisentiu@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Only separate like in the newtolemmy community sidebar and pinned post are separate.

[–] borisentiu@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I feel like that makes sense looking from the POV of these 3 platforms, but it's not a logical focus after watching Rossini's video, for example.

[–] borisentiu@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

my 2nd draft
Welcome!

Are you curious about the Fediverse or new to it?

Did you see guides like https://jointhefediverse.net/, but still
have some questions?

Feel free to ask them here!

You can read right away, but to post you need to make an account (e.g. on Lemmy, Mbin, or Piefed

See the pinned post for a selection of guides and more.

Keep in mind that for some questions there is not only one correct answer, but rather a pluralism of perspectives.

* Pinned post limited to a) links to general guides and communities b) specific guides and newto-communities sorted by platform. Post not being another guide itself.

edit: still somewhat choice overload, but less than before?


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[–] borisentiu@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I think it's a great guide to answer questions about Lemmy, and so helpers also don't need to interact with the same questions over and over.

With a new community I personally wouldn't try to do the same for everything from Mastodon over Funkwhale to Mobilizon in one post. I would simply list 2-3 guides like https://jointhefediverse.net/ and https://joinfediverse.wiki/ plus 1-3 links per platform.

[–] borisentiu@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago (7 children)

All good :-) Do you mean rework to adress the whole fediverse? I wouldn't suggest turning newtolemmy into newtofediverse at the expense of losing a fine community tailored to Lemmy.

My point is, as someone being new to the Fediverse you may need both, at different stages.

And the 'read-only' resource jointhefediverse.net probably should avoid choice overload by not listing a ton of newtocommunities as next step(s).

Hence the idea of offering one community newtofediverse (or other title), that is for all the dozens of platforms, but with minimal input itself. Just a safe space for questions. I wouldn't fill it guide-like, only link to a few of those existing resources and newtolemmy etc. in a pinned post, instead.

The discussion here is helpful, but it's all pointless, if fediverse people don't warm up to the idea, signalling readiness to help with actual questions. We could rework the draft and suggest an instance (lemmy.ca?) in another post to the various fediverse@... communitys.

[–] borisentiu@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago (9 children)

That's kind of where I'm coming from, initially. And since the flairs are the only major thing in the way of interoperability between Lemmy, Mbin and Piefed - while we'd need as much help with this as possible - I think ditching that part is best.

[–] borisentiu@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Yeah, it's tricky stuff. I mention those other platforms, because it's not about directing people to Piefed aside from this format. If not for the handy flair thingy for this purpose, one could just neglect the differences or discuss that somewhere else than the intro. I'm probably too intrigued by the idea of sorting questions with that feature.

[–] borisentiu@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (21 children)

Draft (How I would frame it)
Welcome!

Are you curious about the Fediverse or new to it?

Did you see guides like https://jointhefediverse.net/ (more in the ‚Wiki’)*, but still
have some questions?

Feel free to ask them here!

Here you are in a community on Piefed. Similar platforms with communities around topics are Mbin and Lemmy, the largest of these. Users from there help with your requests, and you may have a look at their spaces, too.

For this Q&A purpose we chose Piefed, because you can optionally add flairs like ‚unsolved‘/‚solved‘ etc. to your posts. Additionally you can set a user flair at the sidebar.

You can read right away, but to post you need to make an account (e.g. on https://join.piefed.social/try/ or - without flairs - https://joinlemmy.com/ or https://joinmbin.org/)

Keep in mind that for some questions there is not only one correct answer, but rather a pluralism of perspectives.

* I would limit this wiki to a) links to general guides and communities b) specific guides and newto-communities sorted by platform, as imo there’s no need to start another guide from scratch.


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[–] borisentiu@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

And if you didn't join anything yet and feel like sorting sth out after some hearsay and the 'static' info on joinfediverse?

Right now one of the fediverse@... could be linked, but that may flood them with these questions and bury fediverse news etc interesting to regulars.

 

Edit: Or use this link https://lemmyverse.link/piefed.social/post/891425
(thanks, @blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com )

 

Inspired by a new introducing video and its reference to https://jointhefediverse.net/ , see link and discussion here: https://piefed.social/post/889659

Jointhefediverse is a great resource for interested people/new users, and for those a link to a community dedicated to questions re the whole fediverse and interaction with regulars could be a nice addition.

I'm only aware of 'Fediverse' communities not specifically for that group, or communities tailored to new users of Piefed (https://piefed.ca/c/newtopiefed) or Lemmy (https://lemmy.ca/c/newtolemmy ). Am I missing something?

The community itself could be set up rather quickly, but maybe we talk about things like name and other basics before?

 

Elena Rossini's accounts/blogs regarding fediverse, hosting etc. are worth following anyway, now she produced this cool video. Several subtitles were already contributed.

 

I'm new here and think it's developing very nicely. Congrats and thank you!

Not the most important thing, but maybe it makes sense to collect some feedback on the various translations?

In the german interface 'Note' in the profile section is not translated, yet the word means 'Grade' in German. Combined with Attitude/Verhalten it may come off as social-scorish, which both are not. (Maybe the latter could have a link to the explanation).

A common alternative would be 'Notiz'.

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