chickenwing

70 billion dollars and what really do they have to show for it?

The purchase gave them an insane amount of debt so they immediately laid off a lot of former fox employees and recently laid off 7000 employees to save them 5 billion.

They also haven't done much of anything with the Fox catalog.

Most of the new 20th century films were unceremoniously slapped onto Hulu streaming.

• Hellraiser 2022
• Prey
• New Mutants
• No Exit
• Barbarian
• Boston Strangler
• Crater

And more were all put on streaming and forgotten. Some of these movies were pretty good and could have made some money in theaters. I really liked Barbarian myself and Prey got a ton of praise.

What exactly did they get that was worth 70 billion? Avatar? The Simpsons? They could have just licensed those for Disney+ and saved a ton of money. Most of Fox's properties don't fit Disney. What are they even going to do with Alien, Predator, and Planet of the Apes? If Prey is any indication they aren't interested in putting them in theaters.

Before someone says X-Men what the hell have they even done with them? Some lame cameos. I'll never forgive them for the quicksilver gag in Wandavision. They got beat bad by Fox in the who has the cooler quicksilver so they make him a dick joke. Great.

They aren't going to do anything with the X-Men anytime soon. The 3rd Deadpool movie seems to be the only thing even cooking and that seems to be more because Ryan Reynolds is pushing it. If you're an X-Men fan you must be disappointed. Remember when we had an X-Men movie about every year? Say goodbye to those and Alien, Predator, Planet of the Apes.

FX seems to be doing alright but all to adult for Disney so to Hulu it goes. Why did they make a big deal out of Disney+ anyway? Wouldn't it make more sense to have one app? Put it all on Hulu. Why are their two apps with very different interfaces for one company?

Now that Disney is losing money in streaming and with recent flops I think this deal needs to be scrutinized more. Blame Capitalism or streaming mania but I have to say even from a business standpoint it makes no sense at all.

What do you think? Was this the beginning of the end for Disney's box office dominance? A bad play to kill Netflix? Or is Disney planning something that will take years to bear fruit?

Movies have been getting longer for a few years or so but they are especially long this year. Look at the biggest films this year and see how they are about 20-30min longer than they would be in the past.

• The Flash - 2h 24m
• Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny - 2h 34m
• Oppenheimer - 3h
• Barbie - 1h 54m
• John Wick: Chapter 4 - 2h 49m
• Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 - 2h 29m

And even crazier are the 2 parter movies.

• Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse - 2h 16m
• Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One - 2h 43m
• Dune 2 - reported way over 2h

A few years ago this was different.

• Action films like Indiana Jones, Marvel movies, John Wick and Mission Impossible used to be about 2h - 2h 15m.
• Movies closest to Barbie like Clueless and Legally Blonde were about 1h 30m.
• Biopics like Oppenheimer were longer but not 3h. Lincoln was 2h 30m.
• Animated films would be 1h 45m max.
• Lynch's original Dune was almost 3h cut by the studio to 2h 15m.

I remember when Harry Potter Deathly Hallows got criticism for being a 2 parter. The Dark Knight Rises got push back from theaters saying it was too long and made it difficult to have a lot of showtimes. Now it feels like these long showtimes and 2 parters are the rule rather than the exception.

Do you prefer movies longer or do you think they are getting too bloated and need to be cut down?

Also what is causing this trend of long films? I think it's streaming and binging making people more comfortable watching TV for a long time. But I see people say that attention spans are getting shorter thanks to the internet so I don't really know.

This will be the first Toho Godzilla since Shin Godzilla (2016).

For the last few years franchise movies like star wars, marvel, etc. made money regardless of quality. However now it seems like audiences are being choosier when it comes to these kinds of tentpole releases. I've seen some people online say that the movie/theater industry is losing people in general but I don't think that's the case.

Super Mario and spiderverse made a lot of money. And Oppenheimer, Barbie, and Dune seem to be tracking well. I think the problem is that people are getting sick of the same old stuff and need more than just a brand name to go to the theater. What do you you think?