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[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 1 points 16 minutes ago

And how did that work out? Did people come out to vote for the Dems?

Maybe if they had listened to the polls, the Dems would have had a candidate that people were willing to vote for in the main election

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 0 points 27 minutes ago (2 children)

Voters were saying it very loudly, the Democratic leadership just ignored them. Polls were very clear that nobody wanted either of them to run, and they both had a low approval ratings. The ticket wasn't his to give, it was up to the voters. The Democrats chose to skip the voters, so the voters abandoned them.

I don't see why anyone would expect voters to stick with a party that treats it's base so disrespectfully.

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 1 points 35 minutes ago

I feel that "a functioning healthcare system that doesn't bankrupt people", or "lets not light the planet on fire", or "lets make housing affordable", or "genocide is bad" aren't really huge requests. They seem like basic goals that any political leader should be able to shoot for. I guess I don't feel like those are anywhere near approaching "perfectionism".

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like your missing that many people do see the Democrats as the bad guys, and I can't say that I blame them. We recently asked them to say "Genocide is bad, and we won't support it" and they wouldn't. They are the baddies

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 11 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

Maybe the Democrats should prove the complainers wrong. The Democratic leadership has had plenty of opportunity to build trust amongst the voters, and decided to ignore them instead. They've spent years letting their voters down, which is why they aren't trusted.

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (5 children)

A rigged primary, where the voters weren't really given a choice. Voters were very vocal that they didn't want him to run again, and the leadership openly ignored them. Next time, maybe the leadership should listen to the base that they claim they represent.

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

They fell far short of canceling the student loans that they promised, the climate bill was laughably insufficient, they did a terrible job during covid. They also recked the economy (some of which wasn't their fault, some of it was), backed a genocide, and ran 2 terrible campaigns. It seems pretty clear to me why voters didn't trust them.

I also never advocated for letting the Republicans back into office. I'm not sure where that came from.

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 4 points 21 hours ago

I seeing us everywhere. I'm not sure what your talking about

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 1 points 21 hours ago

You are right, a bag of shit should have won against Trump. But somehow the Democratic leadership was still able to mess that up. Next time, they should bring their A team to the table instead of the D team.

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (10 children)

And I can't say that I blame them. Biden's presidency... or his campaign... or Harris' campaign...

It was a shit-show all the way through. Maybe next time the Democrats should try catering to their voter base.

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 2 points 22 hours ago

I'm not a Democrat, so take this with a grain of salt: I think the Democratic leadership are indeed the baddies (just like the Republican leadership). I think most Democratic voters are well-intentioned people, who've been suckered into beliving the lies leadership.

It's OK to be suckered in. I've been suckered into a lot of things. To broadly paraphrase: The best time to realize you've been suckered is yesterday. The next best time to realize is today.

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 1 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Who said reality is better now? I certaintly didn't. I'm also not sure why you brought up Accelerationists. Maybe you're replying to the wrong post?

The Democratic leadership has had the chance to change, and have chosen not to. They had a majority, and spent the entire time bitching that there was nothing they could do for their voting base. But they sure had the ability to do things that their voting base expressly didn't want. I think voters saw through that, and when the time came to put their faith in the Democratic leadership, they couldn't. And I don't blame the voters for that, I blame the leadership.

I don't understand what you mean by AOC putting in the work. I constantly see her talking a big talk, but I've yet to see her walk a big walk.

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