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Popular news aggregation and discussion website Reddit has changed its terms of service, allowing users to earn, purchase or sell currencies and items that can be cryptographically verified. The change in terms also explicitly outlined a clear separation in the definition of non-tokenized Web 2 virtual goods and tokenized Web 3 virtual goods, with a member of the Reddit product team disclosing plans to sunset the former.

Goodreads is perhaps the best example of enshittification imo. It's only good now as a way to track your reading lists.

I tried bookwyrm today and it feels quite polished already, like giving you a guided tour of it's features. Hopefully it takes off as well similar to mastodon and lemmy.

Libreddit is going down as well.

The silver lining here is that both of them are wholeheartedly recommending lemmy as the alternative, so it should provide an extra push to those on the fence about migrating

I always loved browsing such posts on reddit, so thought I should make one on lemmy too

Edit: Usually these kind of posts only used to have excerpts from books or ancient proverbs, but now I am seeing a lot more quotes from shows/movies/games are also resonating with people. It's pretty cool to see.

This post explains the incident well but long story short some hackers were able to compromise user and admin accounts through stolen authentication cookies on some instances.

Before things were clear on exactly how this happened, we pulled the plug on our instance to mitigate the risk. We probabaly should have hastily wrote an announcment post before doing that but the situation seemed critical so we didn't want to waste any time.

Few hours later, people were able to figure out the issue and promptly fix it. Turns out this vulnerabilty could only be exploited if an instance had custom emojis which thankfully ours didn't, so users using this instance should be safe from the hack. lemmy.fmhy.ml now runs on v18.2rc which has fixed this vuln to be extra secure.

Sorry for the downtime and we will try to communicate the problem better in the future.

P.S. After somone mentioned exploding-heads on a recent post and why we are still federated with it, we took some time to view it carefully and decided it's an instance that systematically breaks our rules and to defederate with it. We will shortly post our defederation policy soon to give a better idea on how we will decide on which instance to defederate from moving forward.

Announcement post: https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/post/695504 Github release page: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/releases/tag/0.18.1

This version had some major backend optimizations, so lemmy now uses much less resources and should feel a whole lot more snappier. I also compiled a list of some more noticeable changes that have come with this version:

Features

• Captchas are added back.
• When you delete your comment, they are now permanently deleted from the database after 30 days (used to be just hidden before).
• Federated posts with sensitive images are not cached on local instance if not allowed by the local site. This means such images won't be stored on local servers and would instead rely on image URL.
• More sorting options for your feed (with some more like 'best' coming in future updates)
• Community sorting options in community tab.
• Retain Scroll Position of Home Feed when going back.
• Searching for a community for the first time on an instance now gives result much faster.
• Body posts text limit increased from 10k to 50k characters.
• When hovering, most buttons now show a focus border.
• If image size you're trying to upload is more than the allowed size on the instance, it now shows the proper reason of upload failure.

UI

• Base font size slightly decreased and better use of horizontal space for the home page, making overall UI feel much better.
• Themes are now added to lemmy, including litely-compact and darkly-compact for people who like their feeds more compact.
• Body Preview is removed from posts on home feed (there's now a button to expand a post).
• Only child comments now have colored borders.
• OP, mod and admin tags are now more prominent on comments.
• Private message and Create Post UX improved.

Fixes

• Kbin federation is now better so more posts from there should be visible
• Subscribe and Block button were sometimes not clickable on first load. This has been fixed.
• Upvoting sometimes caused the page to scroll to previous comment, this has been fixed.
• Video Embeds now work the same as other content.
• Search request being called twice on search page.
• Images no longer auto collapse when they were expanded and upvoted.
• Avatars aspect ratios fixed (no longer smooshed).
• A 300 comment limit is now imposed on posts to prevent a vulnerability abuse. This is temporary until the vulnerability is fixed.

This is also a good time to ask how people are feeling about the instance, and if you have any suggestions on things that can be improved. And once again, if you encounter any bugs after the update, please write them in the comments so we can fix them.

Decentralization

Reddit is going downhill, Twitter is a mess, Youtube is making decisions that no one wants and Instagram/TikTok are creating algorithms to make you addicted to their content at the expense of your mental health. Before them there was myspace, digg, yahoo etc doing the exact same thing. The common thing is that the power on these platforms is 'centralized', meaning that a single company has the power to make any rule or change which the users will have to agree with if they want to continue using the platform.

'Decentralization' aims to return control to the people. Instead of one dominant entity governing the entire system, these platforms rely on smaller, user-operated nodes that communicate with one another. This way no single user or company has the power to make changes to the entire system, or to decide what is acceptable or not as each instance can have their own set of rules by which they run.

Federation

In simple terms, when two instances communicate and send data to each other, they are said to be 'federated'. An instance can thus federate with thousands of other instances to view and interact with the content hosted on them. You can even set up your own small personal instance and federate with every other instance to view data from the entire fediverse.

If an instance becomes unomoderated, hosts illegal content, has a bot problem or has just in general a vibe you don't agree with, an instance admin can 'defederate' from that instance, meaning you will no longer view posts from them nor can they view posts from you, effectively breaking any communication with them.

Fediverse

Fediverse, or 'federated universe' is the name given to the social media platforms that utilize this concept of federation and decentralization. While Lemmy and Mastodon are the most popular right now, there are many similar platforms. There is Peertube for example, which is a Youtube alternative, or Pixelfed, which is an instagram alternative. You can view a list of all such platforms on this site. Here's also a visual representation that might help.

Lemmy

Lemmy is the reddit alternative social media that is part of the fediverse. It works similar to reddit, in the sense that people can post stuff and other users can comment on these posts, higher upvoted posts rise to the top etc. The main difference is that communities (subreddits of lemmy) are hosted on different instances which can then all be viewed by a user from their home instance (provided they weren't defederated). So no single instance or admin has control over all communities, nor do the hosting costs skyrocket as ideally each instance will host some communities to balance the load.

Mastodon

The Twitter alternative and the first popular fediverse platform. it's pretty similar to Twitter so if you know how that works you pretty much know how Mastodon works too (apart from the decentralized aspect).

Kbin

While Lemmy and kbin are spoken of together nowadays, kbin is actually more of a hybrid between lemmy and mastodon. While you can use kbin just as a lemmy alternative with a different skin, it is also a microblogging site. This means that you can follow individual users, and people looking at your 'timeline' can even view posts you upvoted, similar to twitter.

Right now there is no way to interact with mastodon users through lemmy, but Kbin can view content from both. So it's upto you which kind of platform feels better to you.

Edit: Small correction but Mastodon can view lemmy content as well, so it's just lemmy who's unable to fetch mastodon content right now.

ActivityPub

ActivityPub is the protocol on which the entire fediverse runs. It provides a client to server API for creating, updating and deleting content, as well as a federated server to server API for delivering notifications and subscribing to content. All you need to know is that if a platform is part of the fediverse, then it must be using ActivityPub protocol.

FOSS

Free and Open Source Software. It's a more general term but thought it's relevant enough to be added since a lot of people might not have heard of it. FOSS applications are not only free but make their source code public, which means anyone can view exactly how each part of the site works and to check if nothing malicious is added. People can even modify this code to make changes and make the application better. Here's the source code for lemmy for anyone interested.

Aside from the terms I'll also try to answer some questions I've seen asked frequently:

Q: How is this entire thing monetized?

A: In short, donations. Decentralization helps by making the hosting costs manageable for a single instance, so donating even a little bit to your home instance can help them cover a large portion of their operating costs.

Q: What Instance should I join?

A: While I wish I could say join any one of them, in reality, each instance has a different set of rules and philosophy on which they operate. Some can be heavy in their moderation, trying to curate a very specific feed, while others are much more liberal, letting users have more free control. My advice to someone new would be to make an account on any instance just to get a feel for how everything works and if you like the concept of Lemmy. Once you've grasped how things work, then choose an instance to be your main home.

Q: Why do I see different amount of upvotes and comments on different instances?

A: If the comment is new, it can take some time to sync and be visible on other instances in general. However, remeber that you can't see upvotes and comments from users your instance has not federated with. So if your home instance has not federated with some instances, the upvotes and comments from users of that instance won't be visible to you.

Q: How do I discover new Communities to join?

A: I made a specific post just for this question.

Q: Are there any mobile apps for lemmy?

A: Yes, a lot of them infact. Here's a megathread that's being kept updated with all current apps.

Q: I signed up on an instance, now what?

A: You should see 3 tabs at the top, namely subscribed local and All. Subscribed will give you the feed from the communities you've subscribed to, local will show you communities hosted on your home instance and all will give feed from all the communities from every instance you are federated with. all is basically the r/all of lemmy. That's a good place to start browsing to discover new communities and to interact with people from other instances.

Q: My feed looks different on my instance compared to another instance even though we haven't defederated from anyone?

**A:**The way federation works on lemmy is after someone searches and subcribes to a community for the first time from another instance, only then is the information about an instance fetched. This is done this way to prevent flooding and overloading the local instance with every single other instance at once (and to not waste bandwidth connecing with spam intances). So if you set up your own personal instance, you’ll need to search interesting communities once yourself to view them later (or set up a script to do something like it).

These are the main points I thought a new user might find useful. If someone has anything they wish to be added, comment below and I'll update it with relevant information.

You can use https://lemmyverse.net/ to check actual subscriber numbers.

Edit: Why YSK: New users of Lemmy can find the number low and think that a community is dead or inactive, when infact it might be a thriving place with a lot of activity.

Relevevant HN Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36547801