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People are freaking out because for years, the central dogma was to "educate yourself, that makes you special, that makes you unique, that guarantees you a prosperois economic future" and such, and now this promise is about to be broken. People are in denial: AI is a good thing.
Not in our broken ass system. First we need an economic system where people want to, but don't need to work.
That better system looks more realistic now that we can have AI and robots do nearly everything. The artificial scarcity is becoming more and more obvious.
What jobs has AI actually taken, though?
none
Without scarcity, artificial or not, the ruling class loses their grip on power. Capital will manufacture scarcity to whatever degree it is capable of, because without it there's even less justification for owners to exist at the top of this neat little hierarchy they desperately cling to. They need to have their gated fortresses and their toys, cleanly separated from the rest of us undesirables.
They'll use AI to bolster the security of their bunkers while drying up the rivers to run them. The whole while, they'll blame any economic decline on the claim that "nobody wants to work anymore" after having automated all the jobs and offering no replacements.
I'd like to believe an alternative is possible. Perhaps we can come together and push for a better future, but that doesn't seem to be the way things are going currently.
Human nature is the real issue tbh. Scarcity was always the easier problem.
if you don't have a job, you don't get paid, so you lack basic things.
if robots just did everything, and necessities (food, water, heating, cooling, etc) were free, then that would be great. unfortunately, that's not the reality we live in right now, so of course plenty of people (including myself) don't like AI.
Isn't this hate somewhat misplaced, still? Like, AI under capitalism might hurt you, but the problem is not AI.
Instead of working on core issue, many people try to ban every symptom, and it might be a very simple distraction tool.
I agree 100% with this. Often arguments "against" AI summarize to "it is my suffering what gave my art value, so yours has none."
Bro, that's what capitalism told you. Your issue is not the "value" of AI it is the system that assigns and controls said value.
I see it more as: "AI is being used to increase suffering and kneecap labor, especially forms of labor which are considered pleasant. In the process, nearly every cent surrounding LLMs replacing workers is getting redirected to the already wealthy."
So you mean AI is being used by Capitalism, the same way it uses everything else?
As a tool to deprive the workers from the means of production, yeah.
Exactly.
Yup.
Exactly.
Oh great, instead of me, a machine owned by a capitalist will produce the art! /s
Well, it's good — if some of the profits of the increased productivity make it to the people who aren't billionaires or multimillionaires.
Bullshit. AI is taking over everything I enjoy doing. Drawing, writing, making music, what will be left to accomplish? To create? To have pride in?
There's no pride in clicking generate every couple minutes.
Curse this lifeless world we now live.