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Article source: https://www.thewrap.com/ai-princess-mononoke-remake-trailer-slammed-online/

“I strongly feel that [artificial intelligence] is an insult to life itself,” the original’s legendary animator Hayao Miyazaki has previously said

A “Princess Mononoke” film created using so-called generative AI was slammed by fans on social media after its release earlier this week.

“One day we’ll wake up, and there won’t be any more Princess Mononoke, Gravity Falls, Avatar or animated films like Wolf Children or Arcane… just AI-generated soulless garbage,” wrote @goroweko on X, formerly Twitter. “I don’t want that so bad.”

The AI-generated remake goes up against the original “shot-for-shot” and was created by AI entrepreneur PJ Acetturo, combining AI-generated CGI shots that match the fim. The result is a “crime” that turns “a 15-year-old Japanese girl into a white woman with a smoky eye and bikini tan lines” and “‘is enough for me to think we should bring back tarring and feathering,” literary agent Roma Panganiban wrote on X.

Acetturo has made it clear he’s proud of his production, no matter what reaction it’s received. “I’ve wanted to make a live action version of Studio Ghibli’s Princess Mononoke for 20+ years now. I spent $745 in Kling credits to show you a glimpse of the future of filmmaking,” he wrote on X.

The AI filmmaker added that he was “being interviewed on the BBC today about my films” and “Clients are reaching out like crazy.”

He was challenged in the BBC segment, with one of the British network’s contributors noting that it seemed that there was something lacking in AI-created content.

“I’m sure there will be some criticism of this. I’ve heard Miyazaki is anti-AI. That’s okay,” the filmmaker wrote online. “I made this adaptation mostly for myself, because his work makes me want to create new worlds. We should look for ethical ways to explore AI tools to help empower artists to create.”

He posted a side-by-side comparison of his trailer with the beautifully crafted original:

The Mononoke trailer is a shot-for-shot remake of the trailer. This film has been in my head for two decades. I love this world so much.

I hope this meager adaptation inspires others to further explore their favorite worlds. Here's the side by side comparison: pic.twitter.com/eDu8ASOBU6

— PJ Ace (@PJaccetturo) October 3, 2024 His statements were called out as problematic by actor Swann Grey, who tweeted in response, “‘I’ve heard Miyazaki is anti-AI. That’s okay.’ … Excuse you? To say that in the same breath as the word ‘ethical’? And to call a shot-for-shot remake ‘creating a new world’? Zero creativity, zero respect, and zero concept of what art is. You’re not an artist — you’re a fraud.”

Miyazaki himself has stated, when presented with an example of the use of AI in animation, that “I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself.”

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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What is the "soul"

As I said "It is personal. It comes from the unique perspective of another human being."

I am not talking about something metaphysical. I am talking about the unique art styles people have because we all experience "what we see" differently. What colours we choose to emphasise, what physical characteristics we choose to emphasise. It's always slightly different from one person to the next because we all experience life in a different way.

Is photography art? They're often only capturing what is already there; and a lot of photography these days is done digitally with all sorts of AI focus, recognition, and lighting tools.

Yes it is art. What is the photographer choosing to emphasise? What tools are they choosing to use?

Creative works are people expressing their experiences. That's why Roger Waters singing about his "wall" will always feel less shallow that McDonalds singing that they're lovin' it. Yes, art when it's "a job" involves a lot of simply following rules and skills learned, like any other marketable skill, but that's a different kind of art that quite frankly, most people find a little hollow.

This sort of paint by numbers stuff is why people are getting sick of Marvel movies. Because we can tell the people making it are just meeting quotas. That's the kind of shit the corporations funding AI want to replicate.

As far as ego is concerned, that's a whole other kettle of fish. Yes, sure, that exists in every craft. A lot of it seems to stem from it being something that most poor people don't have time to do, but that's a capitalism problem, not the fault of art. But honestly on the other side of the coin, there are a lot of poor artists out there and art/artists on the are whole also massively undervalued by our society "Oh, let me guess you have an art degree? Heh, should have studied something more useful. You'll be poor forever."

Art is undervalued, like all all labor, by the ruling class, which is why artists frustrate them so much and they are so keen to automate art, so they can produce art to sell cheaper and make a lot of profit. They will, and it will probably dominate the commercial world if it ends up becoming cheaper than hiring artists and the capitalism hasen't completely collapsed by then.

But it will suck and be samey and it will be missing something. Because it will be algorithmiclly generated collage scraped from already existing content, without the personal context, by a machine that doesn't have any perspective, personal experiences or attachment to what it is making.

Artists complaining about this as some soul-doom insult to "real art" are, in my opinion as an artist, engaging in petty-bourgeois self-obsession

Also, I get frustrated with the idea that anything other than a surface appreciation of art is the same kind of snobbery we see in "exclusive" art scene of the upper class.

No, appreciating the creativity and meaning the artists put into a low budget, small team indie movie or game isn't fucking bourgeois. Finding meaning in art and creating folk heros is something peasants have done since humans could think.