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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago (2 children)

can we just ban online features from tvs, cars, printers, light bulbs etc.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Cars being online has some tangible benefits in that they can transmit location data to emergency services, especially if the driver is unresponsive. Might save someone from dying in a ditch in the middle of nowhere.

Arguably, some of the data collected while driving is also very useful for maintenance and development (e.g. if a lot of vehicles start having a similar issue after X miles).

That said, this data should be limited in scope and use (e.g. must not be sold, especially not to insurance companies), as well as anonymized as much as possible. Which is currently not the case, and that definitely needs regulation.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You don't need a high bandwidth connection to do emergency notifications, and considering it might be in a remote area satellite would be better than LTE.

For the diagnostics you could log events internally and then collect them with OBD-II readers, though I'd like to force car makers to use open data formats so people can see for themselves what's collected.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

That said, this data should be limited in scope and use...

Yep, anonymized, limited, non-distributable, and secured, with severe penalties (on the order of tens of thousands of dollars per person, paid to the harmed party) for failure to adhere.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That ship, my friend, has already sailed.

[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Civilians used to own canons. For blowing up ships. And the occasional home invader. Doesn't matter if it has sailed if we sink it. We should sink that ship.