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My family and I were going through my grandmother's apartment after her passing to get her estate in order. After all was said and done, I got a bunch of alcohol she had for guests mostly, including two types of whiskey (scotch and regular), some gin, and three flavors of vodka. I tried some of the Crown Royal and it didn't taste too good. Also didn't taste like the last glass of whiskey I had before. Of course I always hear about stuff aged 4 years or 12 years etc. so I wonder if it's a "gone bad" thing or a me thing.

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[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What we know as whisky maturation is a dance between 4 interrelated processes - infusion, evaporation, oxidation, and other chemical reactions. These all happen together, and very nicely, when whisky sits in oak barrels for an extended period of time.

Colour, and oak flavour are infused into the whisky simply by sitting in the barrel. The whisky will slowly evaporate while inside the barrel as well. Volatile compounds evaporate, making the whisky smoother, deeper, and more complex with age. Fascinating chemical reactions happen between compounds in the wood, and in the whisky. As ethanol degrades lignin, for example, it creates new compounds, which themselves interact with other molecules and compounds in solution.

The age statement on a bottle of whisky refers to the time it spent in a barrel, doing those lovely things.

Common wisdom is that the whisky is done changing when it goes into glass. Certainly, infusion and evaporation are finished. But! Oxidation, and reactions between compounds in the whisky itself will continue, even in a sealed glass bottle. Usually this happens too slowly to notice, or the bottle gets drank before a change can be observed, but change certainly happens.

Long story short - whisky won't go bad. In fact, sometimes it even goes 'good'! I had the chance to try a young single malt, that was bottled in the 1970s. It was wonderful, and had signature aroma and flavour characteristics of a very old whisky. This is due to slow oxidation, and the glacial interaction between esters and congeners over time, which will happen no matter what vessel the whisky is in.

Whisky that has been exposed to too much oxygen, like if the bottle sits nearly empty for a long time, or has a bad seal, will often end up tasting flat and bland. But 'good' or 'bad' at this point, is a subjective matter. Only one way to find out!

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Explains that one time I had a bottle of disgusting flavoured whiskey, let it sit half-empty for a few weeks or even months, and then it was actually pretty good

[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Could be! From my experience, high strength Bourbon is better a couple weeks after being opened. From a flavour standpoint, gin also benefits greatly from resting for a few weeks after distillation.

In fact, one of my favourite Scotch Whisky distilleries will blend a production batch, and then re-barrel the blended volume in casks and let it rest for 6 months to allow the flavours to harmonize.

There is definitely some magic that happens after spirits are blended/bottled, and it's not very well understood, but the changes are detectable, and in general, they're positive.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago

I know Bruichladdich has said they do this for the Laddie Classic (a bottling I really love). Source: just trust me bro. I don't recall when or where I heard that. Possibly they do it with other bottlings, and surely other distilleries are doing the same thing. Bruichladdich didn't invent the process. But it's not a well studied, documented, or promoted element of whisky ageing, because, I think, it's not as sexy as infusion and evaporation. Among other reasons. If you're curious, I could spin a yarn.

Any distillery that chooses to do this, certainly does it for a reason. Disgorging and re-casking a batch is a massive pain in the ass, and holds up warehouse space & production timelines - two things a bean counter with no sensitivities to flavour would be happy to cut out.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Or you already drank what you like and were finally drunk enough that you didn't taste how bad it was. 🤣