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[–] zarkony@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, because Elon actually is doing that.

In both these cases, the payment technically isn't directly for voting for a specific candidate. The payment is for an unrelated action that only someone voting for your candidate would agree with. Either way, still smells bad.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/10/07/elon-musks-pac-is-paying-47-for-each-solicited-petition-signature-from-a-swing-state-voter-heres-why-its-controversial/

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The payment is for an unrelated action that only someone voting for your candidate would agree with.

Supporting free speech and gun rights (literally all the petition says) is something only a Trump voter would agree with?

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You think Musk supports free speech in any way, form or shape?

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Didn't say that.

But the petition is being sold here as "pledging to vote for Trump". which it plainly isn't. It's also been sold in this Lemmy thread as paying voters to sign a petition that only Trump voters would ever agree to sign.

The petition that allegedly only Trump voters would ever agree to sign, only states that you support free speech and gun rights. Whether or not I think Musk actually genuinely supports those things (I don't) is irrelevant, that's what the actual petition says.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Can you share the full text of the petition?

Also confirm whether signing it defaults to adding you to any mailing lists?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

So that's a no.

Doesn't matter though, you're obviously being disingenuous by treating this as a one-off petition and ignoring the larger context of America PAC that it's part of.

But I suspect the full text has even more dogwhistles, and I'd bet it tries to add you to their newsletter.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not being sarcastic, and I don't follow American politics that closely so I didn't know about this. I also don't see why people think the right response to that is to just do the same thing though

[–] BakonGuy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Because being this blunt about it will likely get it made illegal.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're doing it specifically to point out how bullshit it is. Read the FAQ: https://apologize.lol

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's fair enough if it's to raise awareness about the fact this is legal, doesn't seem like that's the main focus though

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

It absolutely is. This is the right on the heels of them suing Musk publically.