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[–] charliespider@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Claiming that someone's homophobia is because they are secretly gay is ultimately blaming the gays for said homophobia.

It's also entirely possible that someone is just a hateful piece of shit.

[–] Lemmylefty@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Women can be sexist and nonwhite people can be racist: being a member of a marginalized group unfortunately doesn’t inherently keep someone from perpetuating the discrimination against said group. It’s absolutely true that a lot of, and definitely the majority, of homophobic people are straight, but a lot of the terror-based homophobia stems from projection.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Gold medal in mental acrobatics, damn

[–] DulyNoted@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, being gay isn't a panacea, and one can be both gay and a huge piece of shit.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying.
But usually it's really they are a hateful piece of shit because they are secretly gay. The loudest ones tend to be the most secretly what they are yelling about.

[–] WhyIsItReal@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i just don’t believe that that’s actually true, though. most homophobes are just pieces of shit, not secretly gay

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, that's just because ~~you're~~ Im an asshole.

[–] WhyIsItReal@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

… i’m an asshole because i think that homophobes are mostly bad people, not self-hating gay people?

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly, I misread what you said and thought you were saying angry gay people were mostly bad people. Lol yikes, I apologize

That's embarrassing

[–] WhyIsItReal@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

haha it’s all good

[–] Lokisan@lemmy.fmhy.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

no you're not an asshole. I agree with you that some people are just homophobic pos and not secretly gay. But for this one in particular, if true, it's screaming insecurity rather than homophobia.

[–] CombatWombat1212@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

?? It's blaming a gay person for being homophobic, by what logic does it apply to all of them?

[–] duh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, he may be just a POS, but he seems to think so hard in what looks gay or not... looks like he's hiding.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Um, I'd argue that it's blaming the people that drive others to subvert their own tendencies, e.g. the gay-is-icky crowd of which the Christian national movement is a subset.

If gay was truly okay, and we didn't have guys who felt pressured to be alpha masc, then no-one would blink twice when a toddler liked flowers and rainbows.