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[–] DrinkBoba@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thing is, there are alternatives but people settle for cheap and convenient. Lots of people hate Apple because of some odd contrarian marketing reason. Apple doesn’t do this. Linux is another option. Both are hugely better for regular people than Windows.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Let’s be fair. Apple doesn’t do this quite so blatantly and egregiously, but they do it. They collect plenty of telemetry, and it’s getting harder to opt-out of/block it with their own chipsets.

Edit: I say this as an Apple user.

[–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mac even had special rules so firewalls (including Little Snitch) couldn’t block access to Apple’s own data collection servers.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. That’s some real bullshit. As soon as I can get functional Linux on my M1 Mac mini, I plan to.

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes. A lot of Linux folks hate Apple because they are every bit slimey as Windows but hide behind a veneer of respectability due to higher-end nature of the market they target. So a bunch of yuppies shill for them.

I have an American cousin who refuses to contact me on either WhatsApp, Signal, or Telegram (I gave him three fucking' options) because "I only trust Apple with my contacts list "

Ok, well I'm not spending a euro-per SMS, so we won't casually chat from time to time. Goodbye.

I might be a bit jaded.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. Apple is super slimy. They just hide it better. I’d like to move away from Apple entirely, but I’m kinda stuck right now. I can’t afford to just get rid of perfectly good phones and tablets to try and replace them with better privacy options.

I do what I can to protect my privacy on apple devices, but I don’t trust them at all.

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't blame you. I'd definitely choose apple over Windows at least on the desktop side of things. You get a Unixy experience and their UI is pretty good.

I am still a Gnome user mostly because the interface is Maclike and I came to Linux from the Mac world.

That and as far as phones and tablets go, your options are really limited if you want to go the custom ROM route. ARM is horrible in that each SOC needs its own custom kernel. A very different world from x86.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The tablet and mobile limitations really suck. I edit my photos on my iPad, (and privacy issues aside), I love the iPad for this, and don’t have any plans to abandon it.

I’d consider a pixel with graphene, but not until the phone I have dies/is unusable.

[–] DoakSteezy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bunch of people I know (as an American) use Signal and Telegram along with iMessage. Your cousin sounds like a pretentious dickhead

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bingo! He's a New-York-based cinematographer. You hit the nail on the head. 😂

[–] DoakSteezy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Haha, the duality of the NYer. I’m also a NYer but upstate.