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He then ends up suggesting the reason they don't like Harris is because she's a woman -

“Because part of it makes me think – and I’m speaking to men directly – part of it makes me think that, well, you just aren’t feeling the idea of having a woman as president, and you’re coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for that.”

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[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 9 points 17 hours ago

So who you gonna vote for? Or you gonna sit on your ass and let the angry betrayed women carry the whole load?

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 7 points 17 hours ago

When people interpet your intent to vote for someone as an endorsement, but the candidate is un-endorseable, the only reasonable response to this question is "none of your fucking business"

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 5 points 16 hours ago

Okay keep your endorsement to yourself but look around at all the women who Trump and McConnell raped by packing the Court and remember, it was voters who "just couldn't quite trust Hillary" who made that happen. Nobody will ever be good enough for you, so you would rather we fall to the Nazis.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 16 hours ago

Hillary lost because she openly mocked and derided the people she needed to vote for her, marginalized people who had real needs that weren't being met by her policy proposals and who were urging her to take more progressive stances.

so you would rather we fall to the Nazis

Better to fall to the nazis fighting them than welcome them to the table. Fuck the Cheney's, and fuck the democrats for proudly welcoming them into their coalition and then condescending to voters who rightfully see them as war-mongering demons.

Democrats will lose if they keep daring people not to vote for them rather than addressing the interests of their constituents. It is the single worst campaign strategy I've ever seen, and it amazes me that it isn't even the first time they've decided to fuck themselves in the ass with it.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -3 points 14 hours ago

I heard a commentator yesterday state: "Democrats can not fail; they can only "be failed" by their voters."

Its always "the voters" who are to blame when Democrats fail. I'm not interested in voting for the party of Cheney; I'm not interested in voting for a pro-genocide party. And maybe I'll be able to suck it up enough to as so many would have you believe, "do the right thing", as if voting for a pro-genoicde, pro-buisness, now also neo-conservative party is really that. But what really matters is that there are people far more who are better than I, who simply won't vote in favor of a genocide. But yeah Obama. Keep telling the voters its their fault.

[-] havocpants@lemm.ee -1 points 2 hours ago

It's amazing how one country committing genocide on another 6,000 miles away from the US is the fault of the Democrats.

The moment I hear anyone talk about genocide when referring to the US elections, I write them off as a useful idiot or Russian troll.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 0 points 12 hours ago

Democrats will tell you that nothing can change in FPTP voting, and in then spend 100% of their time every 2 years directing their efforts towards a FPTP election system.

I swear to god, electoralism is sisyphus' fucking boulder, and libs are completely convinced that if they push that damned thing up the mountain just a few more times they'll finally escape the task

[-] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee 2 points 16 hours ago

Democrats are directly responsible for 3 of the current conservative justices that took away women's rights. Hillary's hubris and arrogance caused her to lose.

[-] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

And here I thought it was not having the needed amount of votes that caused her to lose.

I’m sick of people blaming Hillary‘s campaign for all the horrible shit that ensued afterwards. Candidates campaign because it is in their best interest to do so, but at the end of the day, this is our government. It’s our job as citizens to educate ourselves on the candidates, the voting system, and the stakes of the election. We should be figuring out who best to vote for, whether they are good at campaigning or not.

So, while Hillary might have won with a better campaign, the blame for Trump getting into power firmly rests with the voting public. We knew what kind of person Trump was before he was elected, and we knew there was a vacant Supreme Court seat.

Don’t blame it on the fact that people weren’t manipulated well enough by a giant ad campaign.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago

This race is practically a replay of 2016.

[-] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Dems never learn from their mistakes, because they never take accountability for their actions. Always blaming someone else for their failures

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 0 points 12 hours ago

With none of the benefit of hindsight, it seems.

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