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What are your thoughts on the Lemmy ecosystem?

I've been trying it out for the last week. I have my own opinions, but I'd like to hear others and see if we have common ideas on what is good/bad/indifferent about the Lemmy ecosystem.

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[–] FrankLaskey@lemmy.ml 289 points 2 months ago (4 children)

As a ‘front page of the internet’ it has been a pretty great replacement for me as it’s where I go each day to just see what’s going on. However, due to the smaller size you do lose a lot of the activity in more niche communities and the sheer volume of posts/comments compared to Reddit. That’s the biggest downside. Still, you also lose the incessant ads/bad UI/UX decisions and ever accelerating late stage capitalism driven enshittification so that’s a big plus.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 110 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, I love it and actually prefer it to my old reddit experience for general browsing.

What isn’t quite there yet is the ability to like, sit down all day and scroll and post in a community dedicated to my current hyperfixation of the week. Be it guitar maintenance, some indie game, or whatever.

But reddit also didn’t have that when I started using it. Excited to hang here and watch the garden grow

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)

But reddit also didn’t have that when I started using it.

reddit also didn't have to compete with reddit.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No but it was competing with Digg and Slashdot until Digg screwed the pooch. It's been a while, but reddit really owes its size and popularity to Digg 2.0 and the fiasco of bad decisions driven by investors.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

I'm talking mostly about the vibrant niche communities the comment above mentioned. That all happened well after the Digg and slashdot stuff. Niche communities grew on reddit relatively unchallenged.

Sure, reddit could have a similar meltdown to Digg, but I don't think it's a forgone conclusion. Social media has inertia. The bigger a platform is is the harder it is to lose people, because the mass is the feature.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't reddit competing with Digg, or whatever else was popular at the time?

[–] Plum@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I came to reddit from fark, before the digg migration or exodus or whatnot. There was also stumbleupon, and the others are all lost to me.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago

Some of us old folks remember when it had to compete with Digg.

A far more popular competitor that made some unpopular decisions and lost their user base to reddit.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"can't scroll all day"

I keep saying that's a positive thing for other productivity, but sadly, that's not happening for me. Turns out, I want to sit and bum just as much as I always did before. I'm more likely to actually read articles, but I know meta gets more screen time now. As you said, lemmy doesn't have those full niche communities. I know, sacrilege to admit around here.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know, sacrilege to admit around here.

It's not, but we also try to promote active communities to a wider audience on !newcommunities@lemmy.world

[–] lemmonaut@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is there also something like m.lemmy.world/posts/lemmy.world/c/upcomingcommunities ?

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

!trendingcommunities@feddit.nl

[–] Lawdoggo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I’m sure this gets repeated on Lemmy all the time, but I feel like the quality of Reddit posts, even in niche communities about guitar maintenance or whatever, has really gone downhill in the past 10 years or so.

This might come off as mean, but I’ve noticed a significant dumbing-down in terms of what people contribute to Reddit communities but also what people expect to be spoon-fed by those communities. And it’s all presented as this sort of democratization of hobbyist knowledge, where it’s every hobbyist’s duty to educate newcomers on all of the absolute basics and persuade them of why they should care about any of it.

Maybe this is just a side effect of Reddit recommending subreddits to non-subscribers and pushing to become a Facebook-type service for “regular” people - after all, that’s how they make the line go up.

I still prefer old-school forums, which tend to be more insular, less accessible, and expect you to arrive with a modicum of understanding or at least RTFM first. To be blunt, I miss the days when the internet was primarily for geeks.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

i think thats somewhat of an advantage

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

However, due to the smaller size you do lose a lot of the activity in more niche communities and the sheer volume of posts/comments compared to Reddit.

That also leads to a lack of diversity of opinions.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Same as reddit when it was new.

I'd actually say Lemmy feels larger over the same timeframe, but that's just sticking my thumb up in the air sort of measurement.

The problem with growth is that too much, and it ends up trolls and bots making up the majority, and too little growth means it withers on the vines.

With federation (and the ability to defederate), I think the ideal ground can be found. We'll see though!

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Part of the difference I see on Lemmy is that there can be multiples of the same topic area being discussed on different instances with no connection between them and no straightforward method of determining which instance will have the more active discussion.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Usually the number of monthly active users for the comment is a good indication

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Of course, but you've still got to hunt through a dozen instances to find the most active ones.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Active subscriber count should be the more active one, but I agree.

Ideally we'd have native multi a communities right now, so I could see all of my subscribed Linux communities in my Linux multi, all of my subscribed ttrpg in the ttrpg multi, etc.

Definitely an improvement that could be in place. I think letting the user combine the groups to see would be best, because then you can group how you'd like. Having multiple communities with similar topics is no different than reddit, but reddit has multis.

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

When I started using Reddit, it was a circlejerk.

[–] davi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i think there's plenty diversity outside of .world

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

That's part of the issue. There's a hundred instances that each have their own version of most of the subs, and none of them can see each other without users having to find and follow each of them, or at least look at them to find the most active 2 or 3.

[–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There's also a wide and endlessly customizable variety of web/mobile clients, something reddit will apparently never have again.

e: Federation is pretty cool, too.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 2 months ago

Once upon a time, there was Then Reddit, and Now Reddit was Then forums. One day, Future Lemmy will be Now Reddit, and Now Reddit will be Now Forums.