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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

The faster you get rid of the Tories, the faster that feeling will go away.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 24 points 1 year ago

Getting them out will help (on every front) but we are still subjected to propaganda from the Tory press that promotes the agendas that suit billionaires, not ordinary people. They can't rule us until they first divide us.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Tories are akin to US Republicans right, or do I misunderstand the nuances of the UK political factions?

[-] Goms@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Sort of.

American politics are so far to the right that the comparison isn't really... Sane.

Like Bernie Sanders is considered a radical left there, whilst here he's probably (I haven't checked out his policies since 2016) he's more centrist, with a left lean iirc

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Is he though? I think that's mostly media spin, a lot of people supported him and the DNC chair had all but admitted (maybe she has, I don't follow super close) to sabotaging him.

He had some pretty wild socialist dreams, that I am sure he buried and held a funeral for after Trumps election. If I remember right there was some literature about incentivizing ownership of capital by the workers through tax incentives. Essentially kind of making workers automatically small shareholders, sounded cool if I understood it correctly. Was a long time ago... dudes been at it forever.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

It's always tricky trying for an equivalent as US politics are more right wing. So the hardest right Tories are probably in Trump territory and the moderate wing of the Conservative party is more like parts of the Democrats. Bernie Sanders would probably fall somewhere centre-left in the Labour Party. Corbyn would have been burned at the stake over there.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

There are ties between both groups. There was a conference that was paid for by republican linked groups about 2 months ago. UK conservatives share the same agendas as republicans. They learn from each others mistake to become more effective in their grab for power.

[-] Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

They won't be gotten rid of because the Tories know how to make working class feel middle class, thus they vote against their own interests every time. It's amazing what monthly payments for a BMW or whatever else makes a person feel accomplished.

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